The great 2020 election thread....

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PerrySimm wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:48 pm In perhaps the flashiest move from any of the candidates that need a boost to qualify for November, Tulsi Gabbard might boycott the October debate. This week's debate could also be the last time O'Rourke, Klobuchar, and Castro are seen in the mix.
Alright. Now that I'm done laughing, what basis of reasoning is she protesting her own party's debate?
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She’s claiming the requirements are rigged due to the polling being based on polls the DNC funds or to that effect.
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It's more of the same "the system is rigged!" Trump/Sanders rhetoric.
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It's so rigged, they're letting Yang into every debate so far.
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Sounds like an appropriate condition for some healthy skepticism on our parts.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:03 am That consistent agenda is literally "the system is bad!" Past that, it was all over the map in terms of consistency and he attracted single-issue voters. My big beef is that Clinton voters especially of the female empowerment mindset or romantics were so emotionally invested in her, while he did play a huge role in her loss, let's not overlook that, he's become the scapegoat for why she lost, at least emotionally if not intellectually. Because he stubbornly clung to his pride until the end. In 2008, she put away her pride to do the good thing for the team. And in that sense, it validated what we had said about him all along. The passionate and not pragmatic Clinton voters are still in agony, and dislike the hypocrisy of those single-issue accelerationist voters of his he attracted who are not enough to actually help him or us, but to throw the system out of whack ever so slightly to help the other side. It's like trying to argue with a brick wall. You CANNOT win.
A corrupt system of government is hardly "single issue". You compare him to Trump, but Trump was literally boasting for laissez-faire corporatism even while claiming to drain the swamp, and has literally worked for only one of those things. Healthcare, education, and the corporate economy all center rather balanced around the defunct nature of the government system, and I must say that the emotional feminist movement hardly supersedes that as far as you trying to tone police him.
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Not sure if this fits in this posting but watching the impeachment hearings even if he doesn't get impeached I don't think Trump will win 2020.
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sayla0079 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:08 pm Not sure if this fits in this posting but watching the impeachment hearings even if he doesn't get impeached I don't think Trump will win 2020.
My opinion is that the impeachment will fail and then Trump will use this whole thing to great effect to continue his ''people verses them'' rhetoric that worked so well for him last time. This is the equivalent of trying to knock a man out using your own testicles and has if anything put Trump closer to the White House in 2020 not further away.

Will Trump win? I don't know. But I would point out one thing: not many people thought that he would win a year before the last election either and any one who says otherwise is rewriting history. Counting this man out is a big mistake. He still has the charisma, the money, the fame, and the devoted following to go down fighting.
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I've come to the feeling that Trump sets his sights on key figures in regulation to soften any impact from any indictments that ever come his way past to present and then. It just seems fitting with his belligerence with respect to public representation of anything that has to do with public integrity.
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Recent Incumbent Presidents who Lost:
-> GH Bush, who broke a promise on taxes & faced recession
-> Carter, who had trouble in Iran & faced recession
-> Ford, who pardoned Nixon & faced recession
-> Hoover, who faced great depression
And then we're literally a hundred years ago.

Moral: Bad Economy + Other Problem = Loser!
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