Internment camps for the homless

[Darth Wedgius]

California holds a disproportionately high number of America's homeless, and the mayor of Redding has asked for permission to implement a plan for tackling it.

https://www.ijpr.org/post/redding-mayor-envisions-forcing-homeless-people-stay-temporary-shelter#stream/0

“There’s a lot of reasons why this kind of approach is not likely legal,” National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty legal director Eric Tars tells the publication. “I would call it an internment camp, or a concentration camp. If it’s not a jail, then what else could it possibly be?”

Maybe call it a sanctuary district? I'm not going to compare this to Nazi extermination or work camps because even my stupidity has bounds once in a while. I think comparisons to debtors prisons would be very strained as well. And the rough similarity to DS9's sanctuary districts might be setting off some of my alarm bells more loudly than warranted.

But maybe not.

I doubt this would pass judicial muster, but the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals can be odd at times. If a horse is ever made a court justice, that would be the court.

This worries me. Slippery slopes aside (as they probably should be) it might even be helpful in practice. But, as I think Ben Franklin once said, "From the standpoint of One holding an interest in the Liberty of the Common Man, this Totally Blows."

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

There's quite a bit to say about freedom encroachment, but mandating that people be sober and orderly in public on a legally critical level isn't exactly new.

[clearspira]

California holds a disproportionately high number of America's homeless, and the mayor of Redding has asked for permission to implement a plan for tackling it.

https://www.ijpr.org/post/redding-mayor-envisions-forcing-homeless-people-stay-temporary-shelter#stream/0

“There’s a lot of reasons why this kind of approach is not likely legal,” National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty legal director Eric Tars tells the publication. “I would call it an internment camp, or a concentration camp. If it’s not a jail, then what else could it possibly be?”

Maybe call it a sanctuary district? I'm not going to compare this to Nazi extermination or work camps because even my stupidity has bounds once in a while. I think comparisons to debtors prisons would be very strained as well. And the rough similarity to DS9's sanctuary districts might be setting off some of my alarm bells more loudly than warranted.

But maybe not.

I doubt this would pass judicial muster, but the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals can be odd at times. If a horse is ever made a court justice, that would be the court.

This worries me. Slippery slopes aside (as they probably should be) it might even be helpful in practice. But, as I think Ben Franklin once said, "From the standpoint of One holding an interest in the Liberty of the Common Man, this Totally Blows."

Hey, we are approaching the right date for it. 2024 in Trek wasn't it?
Although we are also approaching the right date for WW3 which... also isn't all that unlikely.

[ProfessorDetective]

I've always been one for just building the homeless population houses to live in (a few studies have shown that the upfront cost would outweigh the current long-term cost of caring for the homeless populations on the street. Plus a short-term employment spike), but not if we're FORCING them into it.

And I bet you dollars to donuts they'll cut as many corners as possible just to sweep the unfortunate folks under the rug.

[Darth Wedgius]

California holds a disproportionately high number of America's homeless, and the mayor of Redding has asked for permission to implement a plan for tackling it.

https://www.ijpr.org/post/redding-mayor-envisions-forcing-homeless-people-stay-temporary-shelter#stream/0

“There’s a lot of reasons why this kind of approach is not likely legal,” National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty legal director Eric Tars tells the publication. “I would call it an internment camp, or a concentration camp. If it’s not a jail, then what else could it possibly be?”

Maybe call it a sanctuary district? I'm not going to compare this to Nazi extermination or work camps because even my stupidity has bounds once in a while. I think comparisons to debtors prisons would be very strained as well. And the rough similarity to DS9's sanctuary districts might be setting off some of my alarm bells more loudly than warranted.

But maybe not.

I doubt this would pass judicial muster, but the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals can be odd at times. If a horse is ever made a court justice, that would be the court.

This worries me. Slippery slopes aside (as they probably should be) it might even be helpful in practice. But, as I think Ben Franklin once said, "From the standpoint of One holding an interest in the Liberty of the Common Man, this Totally Blows."

Hey, we are approaching the right date for it. 2024 in Trek wasn't it?
Although we are also approaching the right date for WW3 which... also isn't all that unlikely.

Some time before 2024, but I think we don't know the specific starting year.

Trek predicting the future may not have stopped with the flip phone.

[Antiboyscout]

I've always been one for just building the homeless population houses to live in (a few studies have shown that the upfront cost would outweigh the current long-term cost of caring for the homeless populations on the street. Plus a short-term employment spike), but not if we're FORCING them into it.

And I bet you dollars to donuts they'll cut as many corners as possible just to sweep the unfortunate folks under the rug.

If you think that simply shoving a homeless person into a house solves the problem, you don't know what the problem is.

Intentionally creating a giant homeless camp isn't the solution ether.

reopening mental health facilities is likely the best idea.

[ProfessorDetective]

I've always been one for just building the homeless population houses to live in (a few studies have shown that the upfront cost would outweigh the current long-term cost of caring for the homeless populations on the street. Plus a short-term employment spike), but not if we're FORCING them into it.

And I bet you dollars to donuts they'll cut as many corners as possible just to sweep the unfortunate folks under the rug.

If you think that simply shoving a homeless person into a house solves the problem, you don't know what the problem is.

Intentionally creating a giant homeless camp isn't the solution ether.

reopening mental health facilities is likely the best idea.

Not everyone on the street is a scarred vet or a druggie. Some of them got a bad roll of the dice and just need a leg up and having a proper roof over their heads is a decent start.

But I can't disagree with the mental hospitals, either. That'd help, too.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

California holds a disproportionately high number of America's homeless, and the mayor of Redding has asked for permission to implement a plan for tackling it.

https://www.ijpr.org/post/redding-mayor-envisions-forcing-homeless-people-stay-temporary-shelter#stream/0

“There’s a lot of reasons why this kind of approach is not likely legal,” National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty legal director Eric Tars tells the publication. “I would call it an internment camp, or a concentration camp. If it’s not a jail, then what else could it possibly be?”

Maybe call it a sanctuary district? I'm not going to compare this to Nazi extermination or work camps because even my stupidity has bounds once in a while. I think comparisons to debtors prisons would be very strained as well. And the rough similarity to DS9's sanctuary districts might be setting off some of my alarm bells more loudly than warranted.

But maybe not.

I doubt this would pass judicial muster, but the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals can be odd at times. If a horse is ever made a court justice, that would be the court.

This worries me. Slippery slopes aside (as they probably should be) it might even be helpful in practice. But, as I think Ben Franklin once said, "From the standpoint of One holding an interest in the Liberty of the Common Man, this Totally Blows."

Hey, we are approaching the right date for it. 2024 in Trek wasn't it?
Although we are also approaching the right date for WW3 which... also isn't all that unlikely.

Wasn't the eugenics wars in the 90's?

[clearspira]

California holds a disproportionately high number of America's homeless, and the mayor of Redding has asked for permission to implement a plan for tackling it.

https://www.ijpr.org/post/redding-mayor-envisions-forcing-homeless-people-stay-temporary-shelter#stream/0

“There’s a lot of reasons why this kind of approach is not likely legal,” National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty legal director Eric Tars tells the publication. “I would call it an internment camp, or a concentration camp. If it’s not a jail, then what else could it possibly be?”

Maybe call it a sanctuary district? I'm not going to compare this to Nazi extermination or work camps because even my stupidity has bounds once in a while. I think comparisons to debtors prisons would be very strained as well. And the rough similarity to DS9's sanctuary districts might be setting off some of my alarm bells more loudly than warranted.

But maybe not.

I doubt this would pass judicial muster, but the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals can be odd at times. If a horse is ever made a court justice, that would be the court.

This worries me. Slippery slopes aside (as they probably should be) it might even be helpful in practice. But, as I think Ben Franklin once said, "From the standpoint of One holding an interest in the Liberty of the Common Man, this Totally Blows."

Hey, we are approaching the right date for it. 2024 in Trek wasn't it?
Although we are also approaching the right date for WW3 which... also isn't all that unlikely.

Wasn't the eugenics wars in the 90's?

I posit that the eugenics wars are just as likely as sanctuary districts. The timing is just off that's all.

See, I do not trust the government one damn bit. I absolutely believe that we will have super soldiers eventually. The most probable route imo would be the Halo Spartan 2 route followed by the Deus Ex mechanical arms and legs route; but I would not be shocked if we ever made true Khan-style soldiers either. The problem with the latter is that there will probably be more regulation. But normal people being made ''super''? They will be all over that.

And if we don't to begin with, the Chinese or Russians will, which means that we will too.