#ReleasetheSnydercut thoughts.

[Thebestoftherest]

While I would love to see it one day, I have to question what people who wants it to happen endgame is?

[Rocketboy1313]

A Few thoughts
1) It doesn't exist. Snyder did not finish filming the movie and even if he had he did not have a final cut in mind, he was still working on that and you can only do so much while the effects staff add in numerous elements.

2) It would still suck. Batman v Superman was boring as shit and culminates in a series of boring fights (the same happened in the current Justice League movie), there is no reason to believe his take on Justice League would not be more of the same. Snyder was given too much creative control of characters I feel he has an understanding of, but is doing a poor job of expressing in a way that I find interesting.

3) At this point if it came out there is a gaggle of fans that will say it cured their cancer regardless of its actual quality because they have tied too much of their own pathetic personalities into the idea of it to acknowledge it sucking. Everyone else will be let down no matter what because it has been elevated to mythic status in the nerd community by all this bullshit.

Here is the ultimate thrust that I would predict the movie would be about: the Justice League is a modern day pantheon of gods standing in opposition to Darkseid and the "New Gods" who are pretenders. The HEAVY HANDED to the point of self parody mythologizing of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman (seriously, she is the most Christianized that character has ever been) was almost certainly building up to Snyder making some too on the nose "Comics are Modern Mythology" statement that I was making to my English teacher when I was 15.

Yeah, Zach. We fucking know.

[Thebestoftherest]

Every point you make is true, and if they try to make the Snyder cut the new canon I will give up, but I still want to see it just so we can know what his take on it would be. Perferably as a bonus feature for like the fifth year anniversary of justice league or something, hell I wouldn't mind if they use animatic for fight scenes.

[CmdrKing]

The likely answer is that there’s a relatively coherent work cut (that is, live footage is assembled in a watchable form but effects and fine edits/planned reshoots are incomplete). And honestly I’d be fascinated to see it just out of curiosity about the process. So if people want THAT with maybe a little work to add completed shots that are usable from the released Film? Bring it on.
But it’s not some mythical Good Version or Justice League.

[Thebestoftherest]

The likely answer is that there’s a relatively coherent work cut (that is, live footage is assembled in a watchable form but effects and fine edits/planned reshoots are incomplete). And honestly I’d be fascinated to see it just out of curiosity about the process. So if people want THAT with maybe a little work to add completed shots that are usable from the released Film? Bring it on.
But it’s not some mythical Good Version or Justice League.

Agree, I just want to see how the two of them (snyder and the theatrical cut) different.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I think the fanaticism of DCEU is pretty congruent with the fanaticism of Snyder, so if so pretty much then bully for you if you're a Snyder fan and want to see it. As far as the story is concerned, I imagine it not to be enhanced by seeing Snyder's cut. I have high regards for Watchmen and I don't really dog on Snyder's notoriously grim tones, but these JL plots didn't give the individual heroes the showcase they need really.

[Mecha82]

Zack Snyder is director who does things based on rule of cool. If he thinks it's awesome then he considers it to be all that matters. Which is why his style leads to movies that have style over substance. He also doesn't understand characters that he is supposed to be adapting to screen in his movies. Yes, even in Watchmen that is fine movie among ones made by him he shows missunderstanding of characters. For example movie showed Rorschach as some one to admire when in comic book it's clear that he is not asome one you should admire. Unless you are in far right that is.

[Thebestoftherest]

I can't argue with you on that.

[Thebestoftherest]

Would calling him the modern Hollywood version of Rob Liefield, or Todd McFarland be accurate?

[Rocketboy1313]

Zack Snyder is director who does things based on rule of cool. If he thinks it's awesome then he considers it to be all that matters. Which is why his style leads to movies that have style over substance. He also doesn't understand characters that he is supposed to be adapting to screen in his movies. Yes, even in Watchmen that is fine movie among ones made by him he shows missunderstanding of characters. For example movie showed Rorschach as some one to admire when in comic book it's clear that he is not asome one you should admire. Unless you are in far right that is.

I rarely describe people as "Not understanding" instead seeing them as having their own interpretation, mostly because I believe in death of the author, the validity of changing up setting and theme, and that characters like Superman or Spider-Man who end up being written by 10,000 people over decades will have different voices providing variations or even wild departures when they get their chance to shine.

I literally got into a twitter argument with Dan Slott a few weeks ago about this... Which is a weird experience because people kept arguing with him thru me because my stance wasn't as intense as theirs (they were all #ReleasetheSnyderCut guys and Slott was advocating against Superman killing).

I like when creators do their own takes on material, like how Kenneth Branagh does color blind casting and changes the setting for his Shakespeare productions.
I honestly just think that Snyder made a boring version of the characters in question. Not "wrong" just boring.