I meant OUT of Universe too. They've killed off the Original Trio for what seems like Shock Value and the person now carrying the name Skywalker is a someone who is so bland that it took 3 movies for her to have an actual backstory. I honestly think this is as bad as Legacy of the Force, both needlessly killed off beloved characters, both are loaded with padding, and both don't seem to know what to do with their lead characters.ProfessorDetective wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:24 am I meant OUT of universe. They could have written a worse ending. In terms of the narrative... Eh, they'll figure it out, they always do, somehow.
But I do agree they will figure things out. Series becomes great then become get stale but sooner or later they become fresh again. Sooner of later someone is going to make a story that regains the good will of both fans and critics with a story that captures what made the series so beloved to begin with. My bet, as I've said before, somewhere down the line someone is going to start adapting the Original EU, likely starting with an film adaptation of the Thrawn Trilogy, which will then be followed by a TV series of adaptations of other EU books and comics along with relaunching old comics and novels not suited for the screen and likely remaking games series like Jedi Knights with fan favorite Kyle Katarn or Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2.
This isn't wishful thinking, it's GOING To Happen because it always Happens. Someone always wants to retell the old favorites and sooner or later someone gets it so right that it gets everybody on board for what is to come next. After all, that IS what happen with Star Wars. After Return of the Jedi, the series went into stasis with no real stories coming out and then came TTT and we entered into a something of a Star Wars Renaissance, with new films, TV series, comics, novels and games coming out with many of them turning out to be classics that ended up shaping Pop Culture itself.
Now, Star Wars is starting to head back to stasis with the films going into hiatus, only a handful of shows being made, (and even getting cancelled). I give it about 5 or 10 years before we see Star Wars pick up steam again.
I agree, I may not like TLJ but I am annoyed that ROS rendered it completely pointless, though I'm not that surprised. TLJ had a notable drop in it's second weekend and Solo was the first film in the series to bomb. Keep in mind that The Mandalorian was suppose to be a film originally but was refitted for the small screen after Solo and I think that was for the best.Mecha82 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:42 am Seems to me like JJ Abrams gave something to vocal minority that complained about TLJ what they wanted. They didn't like Snoke so he made Palpatine true big bad. They didn't like that Rey's parents were nobodies so he made her father son on Palpatine. I guess it's true that you can't please everyone.
It's interesting, most people, myself included, see Mandalorian as a truly good show (not sure if I can call it great it but I am enjoying it) and it's not really a typical Star Wars story. It's more like a spaghetti western like the Good, the Bad and the Ugly with a slower pace, little to no dialogue but shot more like Mad Max Fury Road with a lot of Center of Frame shots instead of the more outlandish over the top slow-mo shots of TDST.
I think the reason so many feel that TM feels the most like Star Wars because it has a more old school way of thinking. A New Hope is a classic adventure/heroes journey, The Prequels were like a cross between a historical piece and a poltical thriller, Heir to the Empire was more of like a Spy Thriller and The Empire Strikes Back was a character study film.
For me, TDST is more like a nostalgia bait story. One of Awakens most notable videos was how the film was going to be using more practical effects and during a convention introduced the BB-8 prop and had it interact with R2 with the new Trilogy heroes getting almost no interviews, as far as I can remember.
You can never please everyone and I think that's really the main issue with the Disney Era as a whole that is exemplified in ROS. All three chapters of TDST is made towards the response. There plots are basically that of the Original Trilogy, Awakens was Hope with updated effects, TLJ tried to be more unpredictable while still trying to be like Empire and ROS tried to undo what many disliked about TLJ while also trying to be as much like Jedi as possible.
If TLJ is Batman v Superman then ROS is Justice League. It tries to please everyone and ends up pleasing no one.
