A Look at Odo

[Scififan]

Mentioning Quark in this video reminds me of the episode where Odo is accused of murder. Quark of all people defends because even though Odo is an enemy of his he knows Odo and will not believe that he commit such a crime.

[TrueMetis]

The thing about Odo that always got me (and his race in general) was that he felt sexual attraction to Kira. I find it hard to believe that such a creature would have such a concept. He may have a personality and has taken male form, but he is still a puddle of goo. This would be like a giraffe finding Kira sexy.

And on that note, why is it only women he finds attractive and no one else? He can choose his genitals. How did he form a gender in the first place? And to go back to my giraffe example... He is a creature that can become any animal. Is it not just as likely that a puddle of goo would find ALL sex with ALL creatures equal? And before anyone says it, no, i am not trying to write a weird porno. I actually got the idea off the Greek gods - Poseidon spent half his life as a horse banging other animals. And why not? He's a god and thus not bound by our concepts. Odo is goo, therefore not bound by our concepts either.

"To become a thing is to know a thing". Odo knows how to be a heterosexual human/Bajoran man - and that's about it. His powers are wasted on him imo.

Why is it hard to believe? Humans feel attraction to people of the same sex, opposite sex, both, or not at all. Some people only feel attraction to people after they get to know them, human have just so many oddities when it comes to sex. Why wouldn't changelings?

Same goes for his gender, if humans can have a gender different to their biological sex why couldn't Odo? Why is Odo male? Because he is, no different than a trans person. Though significantly easier to make the change.

[clearspira]

The thing about Odo that always got me (and his race in general) was that he felt sexual attraction to Kira. I find it hard to believe that such a creature would have such a concept. He may have a personality and has taken male form, but he is still a puddle of goo. This would be like a giraffe finding Kira sexy.

And on that note, why is it only women he finds attractive and no one else? He can choose his genitals. How did he form a gender in the first place? And to go back to my giraffe example... He is a creature that can become any animal. Is it not just as likely that a puddle of goo would find ALL sex with ALL creatures equal? And before anyone says it, no, i am not trying to write a weird porno. I actually got the idea off the Greek gods - Poseidon spent half his life as a horse banging other animals. And why not? He's a god and thus not bound by our concepts. Odo is goo, therefore not bound by our concepts either.

"To become a thing is to know a thing". Odo knows how to be a heterosexual human/Bajoran man - and that's about it. His powers are wasted on him imo.

Why is it hard to believe? Humans feel attraction to people of the same sex, opposite sex, both, or not at all. Some people only feel attraction to people after they get to know them, human have just so many oddities when it comes to sex. Why wouldn't changelings?

Same goes for his gender, if humans can have a gender different to their biological sex why couldn't Odo? Why is Odo male? Because he is, no different than a trans person. Though significantly easier to make the change.

Because me loving a man or loving a woman is still me loving a human being. Odo is a puddle of goo, which as a poster above pointed out, is such a different lifeform to us that this is the equivalent of you finding a mold spore attractive. Do you find mold attractive?

And as for gender, Odo is an asexual puddle of goo. Gender does not apply to him because physical sex does not apply to him.

[Thebestoftherest]

The thing about Odo that always got me (and his race in general) was that he felt sexual attraction to Kira. I find it hard to believe that such a creature would have such a concept. He may have a personality and has taken male form, but he is still a puddle of goo. This would be like a giraffe finding Kira sexy.

And on that note, why is it only women he finds attractive and no one else? He can choose his genitals. How did he form a gender in the first place? And to go back to my giraffe example... He is a creature that can become any animal. Is it not just as likely that a puddle of goo would find ALL sex with ALL creatures equal? And before anyone says it, no, i am not trying to write a weird porno. I actually got the idea off the Greek gods - Poseidon spent half his life as a horse banging other animals. And why not? He's a god and thus not bound by our concepts. Odo is goo, therefore not bound by our concepts either.

"To become a thing is to know a thing". Odo knows how to be a heterosexual human/Bajoran man - and that's about it. His powers are wasted on him imo.

Why is it hard to believe? Humans feel attraction to people of the same sex, opposite sex, both, or not at all. Some people only feel attraction to people after they get to know them, human have just so many oddities when it comes to sex. Why wouldn't changelings?

Same goes for his gender, if humans can have a gender different to their biological sex why couldn't Odo? Why is Odo male? Because he is, no different than a trans person. Though significantly easier to make the change.

Because me loving a man or loving a woman is still me loving a human being. Odo is a puddle of goo, which as a poster above pointed out, is such a different lifeform to us that this is the equivalent of you finding a mold spore attractive. Do you find mold attractive?

And as for gender, Odo is an asexual puddle of goo. Gender does not apply to him because physical sex does not apply to him.

I don't but it is possible someone does. He clearly not asexual and heder does apply.

[Robovski]

Odo is a hentai tentacle monster.

[clearspira]

The thing about Odo that always got me (and his race in general) was that he felt sexual attraction to Kira. I find it hard to believe that such a creature would have such a concept. He may have a personality and has taken male form, but he is still a puddle of goo. This would be like a giraffe finding Kira sexy.

And on that note, why is it only women he finds attractive and no one else? He can choose his genitals. How did he form a gender in the first place? And to go back to my giraffe example... He is a creature that can become any animal. Is it not just as likely that a puddle of goo would find ALL sex with ALL creatures equal? And before anyone says it, no, i am not trying to write a weird porno. I actually got the idea off the Greek gods - Poseidon spent half his life as a horse banging other animals. And why not? He's a god and thus not bound by our concepts. Odo is goo, therefore not bound by our concepts either.

"To become a thing is to know a thing". Odo knows how to be a heterosexual human/Bajoran man - and that's about it. His powers are wasted on him imo.

Why is it hard to believe? Humans feel attraction to people of the same sex, opposite sex, both, or not at all. Some people only feel attraction to people after they get to know them, human have just so many oddities when it comes to sex. Why wouldn't changelings?

Same goes for his gender, if humans can have a gender different to their biological sex why couldn't Odo? Why is Odo male? Because he is, no different than a trans person. Though significantly easier to make the change.

Because me loving a man or loving a woman is still me loving a human being. Odo is a puddle of goo, which as a poster above pointed out, is such a different lifeform to us that this is the equivalent of you finding a mold spore attractive. Do you find mold attractive?

And as for gender, Odo is an asexual puddle of goo. Gender does not apply to him because physical sex does not apply to him.

I don't but it is possible someone does. He clearly not asexual and heder does apply.

My point though is that he SHOULD be asexual which is why Odo makes no sense. His natural body has no sex. He is neuter. A Ken doll. He has neither an innie nor an outie.

Now true, we have no idea how Changelings reproduce, but it clearly isn't in any way how we do it. And one other thing to consider here: there is no way this species originally evolved as shape shifters because that makes no sense, even for a franchise that produced the Ocampa. Evolution does not work that way. This would have been something that they either learned over thousands of years or used their knowledge of genetic engineering to introduce. Sexual reproduction for them must have something to do with the Link - probably an exchange of DNA.

[Thebestoftherest]

The thing about Odo that always got me (and his race in general) was that he felt sexual attraction to Kira. I find it hard to believe that such a creature would have such a concept. He may have a personality and has taken male form, but he is still a puddle of goo. This would be like a giraffe finding Kira sexy.

And on that note, why is it only women he finds attractive and no one else? He can choose his genitals. How did he form a gender in the first place? And to go back to my giraffe example... He is a creature that can become any animal. Is it not just as likely that a puddle of goo would find ALL sex with ALL creatures equal? And before anyone says it, no, i am not trying to write a weird porno. I actually got the idea off the Greek gods - Poseidon spent half his life as a horse banging other animals. And why not? He's a god and thus not bound by our concepts. Odo is goo, therefore not bound by our concepts either.

"To become a thing is to know a thing". Odo knows how to be a heterosexual human/Bajoran man - and that's about it. His powers are wasted on him imo.

Why is it hard to believe? Humans feel attraction to people of the same sex, opposite sex, both, or not at all. Some people only feel attraction to people after they get to know them, human have just so many oddities when it comes to sex. Why wouldn't changelings?

Same goes for his gender, if humans can have a gender different to their biological sex why couldn't Odo? Why is Odo male? Because he is, no different than a trans person. Though significantly easier to make the change.

Because me loving a man or loving a woman is still me loving a human being. Odo is a puddle of goo, which as a poster above pointed out, is such a different lifeform to us that this is the equivalent of you finding a mold spore attractive. Do you find mold attractive?

And as for gender, Odo is an asexual puddle of goo. Gender does not apply to him because physical sex does not apply to him.

I don't but it is possible someone does. He clearly not asexual and heder does apply.

My point though is that he SHOULD be asexual which is why Odo makes no sense. His natural body has no sex. He is neuter. A Ken doll. He has neither an innie nor an outie.

Now true, we have no idea how Changelings reproduce, but it clearly isn't in any way how we do it. And one other thing to consider here: there is no way this species originally evolved as shape shifters because that makes no sense, even for a franchise that produced the Ocampa. Evolution does not work that way. This would have been something that they either learned over thousands of years or used their knowledge of genetic engineering to introduce. Sexual reproduction for them must have something to do with the Link - probably an exchange of DNA.

Actually how exactly are changelings made? Do they become so big they have bits fall off or what?

[clearspira]

The thing about Odo that always got me (and his race in general) was that he felt sexual attraction to Kira. I find it hard to believe that such a creature would have such a concept. He may have a personality and has taken male form, but he is still a puddle of goo. This would be like a giraffe finding Kira sexy.

And on that note, why is it only women he finds attractive and no one else? He can choose his genitals. How did he form a gender in the first place? And to go back to my giraffe example... He is a creature that can become any animal. Is it not just as likely that a puddle of goo would find ALL sex with ALL creatures equal? And before anyone says it, no, i am not trying to write a weird porno. I actually got the idea off the Greek gods - Poseidon spent half his life as a horse banging other animals. And why not? He's a god and thus not bound by our concepts. Odo is goo, therefore not bound by our concepts either.

"To become a thing is to know a thing". Odo knows how to be a heterosexual human/Bajoran man - and that's about it. His powers are wasted on him imo.

Why is it hard to believe? Humans feel attraction to people of the same sex, opposite sex, both, or not at all. Some people only feel attraction to people after they get to know them, human have just so many oddities when it comes to sex. Why wouldn't changelings?

Same goes for his gender, if humans can have a gender different to their biological sex why couldn't Odo? Why is Odo male? Because he is, no different than a trans person. Though significantly easier to make the change.

Because me loving a man or loving a woman is still me loving a human being. Odo is a puddle of goo, which as a poster above pointed out, is such a different lifeform to us that this is the equivalent of you finding a mold spore attractive. Do you find mold attractive?

And as for gender, Odo is an asexual puddle of goo. Gender does not apply to him because physical sex does not apply to him.

I don't but it is possible someone does. He clearly not asexual and heder does apply.

My point though is that he SHOULD be asexual which is why Odo makes no sense. His natural body has no sex. He is neuter. A Ken doll. He has neither an innie nor an outie.

Now true, we have no idea how Changelings reproduce, but it clearly isn't in any way how we do it. And one other thing to consider here: there is no way this species originally evolved as shape shifters because that makes no sense, even for a franchise that produced the Ocampa. Evolution does not work that way. This would have been something that they either learned over thousands of years or used their knowledge of genetic engineering to introduce. Sexual reproduction for them must have something to do with the Link - probably an exchange of DNA.

Actually how exactly are changelings made? Do they become so big they have bits fall off or what?

I'm kind of imagining them reproducing like bacteria, where one merges with the DNA of one or more of the other Changelings and then kind of ''splits'' into another. I think your idea has great merit though.

Honestly so much about them screams ''artificial life form'' that it may add a new level to their hatred of the Solids.

[Thebestoftherest]

That does seem right.

[TrueMetis]

Because me loving a man or loving a woman is still me loving a human being. Odo is a puddle of goo, which as a poster above pointed out, is such a different lifeform to us that this is the equivalent of you finding a mold spore attractive. Do you find mold attractive?

And as for gender, Odo is an asexual puddle of goo. Gender does not apply to him because physical sex does not apply to him.

I don't, but bestiality is a thing, so some people might. I mean we're talking about fucking star trek here, humans fuck aliens all the damn time. This wouldn't even be the first time we've seen a relationship where the genitals aren't compatible. Why is this a big deal now? Why is "sentient pile of goo" and different than "green chick", "ridged forehead", "species only live 10 years so you're banging a 4 year old" or "species lives hundreds of years so you're banging a centenarian". If you're banging something that isn't human you're banging something that isn't human.

Humans are generally sexual beings, yet asexual people exist. Why are you having so much trouble with the idea when this is absolutely no different from a whole bunch of humans.

Like let's look at this, humans are a gendered species that reproduce sexually. Yet there are individuals among as that don't feel sexual attraction and don't identify as either gender. Odo's LGBT+. That's it. It's not hard.

My point though is that he SHOULD be asexual which is why Odo makes no sense. His natural body has no sex. He is neuter. A Ken doll. He has neither an innie nor an outie.

And humans "should" (quotes for a reason) be sexual. Yet plenty of people aren't.