The great 2020 election thread....

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

We all know that 9/11 gave Bush his second term.

It did much more than that. It's not hard for a President to get a second term in the US...it's quite normal, actually. But 9-11 rocketed Bush to a 90% approval rating and basically gave him the power to do almost anything he wanted, and THAT doesn't happen very often.

Then Katrina destroyed him. The sword cuts both ways.

Really? For somebody who was destroyed he seemed to have a pretty healthy 8 year term and has all his bones and tissues intact.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Indeed, if we had universal health care the situation here would be no worse than the UK's.

The NHS's central problem is that it is old - 1946 to be exact. It was designed for a fraction of the population that it caters for today and it was designed for a population that died a good thirty years younger. What once worked spectacularly well now huffs and puffs as it tries to keep up.

A health system designed for TODAY - which is what a USNHS would be - would not face many of the same institutional challenges.

I'm not throwing shade at the NHS. I'm just pointing out that universal health care would not necessarily have prevented this.

No but the disease might spread a little bit slower if Covid 19 tests were not restricted to the Pro Basketball, A-List Celebrity, and Horrible Goblin Senator class.

Covid 19 tests are not restricted to the pro basketball A-list celebrity, and horrible goblin senator class, are they?

In practice, yes they are, you willfully dense being capable of enlightenment. Hard-hit cities are begging people not to get tested. People who have all the symptoms struggle to get tested, but some congressmen or prominent actor can just get tested with a snap of their fingers after showing 0 symptoms. Unless you recently were on vacation somewhere with cases or have a family member who tested positive, it's as easy to get a test as a mink coat or gold-plated toilet.

Right now, the best and most effective way for a working Joe to find out if they have Corona Virus is to cough in a rich person's face and look up that bastard's test results in the news, you frustrating fellow sapient being who consistently falls short of the moral and intellectual standards I know you are capable of.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success. The real people want to get back to work ASAP. We will be stronger than ever before!


Actual tweet made by Trump. He thinks that coronavirus is a conspiracy against him. Also, ''LameStream Media''.

No, he thinks the media is trying to keep the economic shutdown going on as long as possible. He does not say that coronavirus is a conspiracy in any sense.

He said the corona virus was a hoax, right up until the point where he started saying he had no warning about it and/or that it wasn't a big problem and he was handling it great.

How many times will you bend over backwards to defend a man you know is slightly more loathsome than most well-recognized supervillains?

[Mecha82]

Let's face it, Trump has been handling this crisis really badly and I won't see that changing. Most he has done is manage to incite racial violence against American Chinese with his racist rhetoric. So nothing that solves problem and only creates new ones for American citizens. Not that he cares since it doesn't effect him and only helps him with his racist core voter base.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Not my president.

[Darth Wedgius]

Let's face it, Trump has been handling this crisis really badly and I won't see that changing. Most he has done is manage to incite racial violence against American Chinese with his racist rhetoric. So nothing that solves problem and only creates new ones for American citizens. Not that he cares since it doesn't effect him and only helps him with his racist core voter base.

Calling it the Chinese coronavirus is racist rhetoric? Like the Spanish Flu or the German Measle?

[Darth Wedgius]

The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success. The real people want to get back to work ASAP. We will be stronger than ever before!


Actual tweet made by Trump. He thinks that coronavirus is a conspiracy against him. Also, ''LameStream Media''.

No, he thinks the media is trying to keep the economic shutdown going on as long as possible. He does not say that coronavirus is a conspiracy in any sense.

He said the corona virus was a hoax, right up until the point where he started saying he had no warning about it and/or that it wasn't a big problem and he was handling it great.

How many times will you bend over backwards to defend a man you know is slightly more loathsome than most well-recognized supervillains?

When did he say SARS-CoV-2 was a hoax? He underestimated how bad it was going to get, absolutely. So did several other politicians and news sources. In the end, the U.S. is doing pretty much in-line with other western nations in how the per capita cases.

I also don't know he is more loathsome than most well-recognized supervillains. He's loud and obnoxious, and seems a lot more confident than I think he deserves. Maybe he's the Penguin, but he's not Magneto.

[Darth Wedgius]

Indeed, if we had universal health care the situation here would be no worse than the UK's.

The NHS's central problem is that it is old - 1946 to be exact. It was designed for a fraction of the population that it caters for today and it was designed for a population that died a good thirty years younger. What once worked spectacularly well now huffs and puffs as it tries to keep up.

A health system designed for TODAY - which is what a USNHS would be - would not face many of the same institutional challenges.

I'm not throwing shade at the NHS. I'm just pointing out that universal health care would not necessarily have prevented this.

No but the disease might spread a little bit slower if Covid 19 tests were not restricted to the Pro Basketball, A-List Celebrity, and Horrible Goblin Senator class.

Covid 19 tests are not restricted to the pro basketball A-list celebrity, and horrible goblin senator class, are they?

In practice, yes they are, you willfully dense being capable of enlightenment. Hard-hit cities are begging people not to get tested. People who have all the symptoms struggle to get tested, but some congressmen or prominent actor can just get tested with a snap of their fingers after showing 0 symptoms. Unless you recently were on vacation somewhere with cases or have a family member who tested positive, it's as easy to get a test as a mink coat or gold-plated toilet.

Right now, the best and most effective way for a working Joe to find out if they have Corona Virus is to cough in a rich person's face and look up that bastard's test results in the news, you frustrating fellow sapient being who consistently falls short of the moral and intellectual standards I know you are capable of.

There are literally drive-through testing centers. What planet are you on? Can you still receive radio signals from earth?

[clearspira]

Indeed, if we had universal health care the situation here would be no worse than the UK's.

The NHS's central problem is that it is old - 1946 to be exact. It was designed for a fraction of the population that it caters for today and it was designed for a population that died a good thirty years younger. What once worked spectacularly well now huffs and puffs as it tries to keep up.

A health system designed for TODAY - which is what a USNHS would be - would not face many of the same institutional challenges.

I'm not throwing shade at the NHS. I'm just pointing out that universal health care would not necessarily have prevented this.

No but the disease might spread a little bit slower if Covid 19 tests were not restricted to the Pro Basketball, A-List Celebrity, and Horrible Goblin Senator class.

Covid 19 tests are not restricted to the pro basketball A-list celebrity, and horrible goblin senator class, are they?

In practice, yes they are, you willfully dense being capable of enlightenment. Hard-hit cities are begging people not to get tested. People who have all the symptoms struggle to get tested, but some congressmen or prominent actor can just get tested with a snap of their fingers after showing 0 symptoms. Unless you recently were on vacation somewhere with cases or have a family member who tested positive, it's as easy to get a test as a mink coat or gold-plated toilet.

Right now, the best and most effective way for a working Joe to find out if they have Corona Virus is to cough in a rich person's face and look up that bastard's test results in the news, you frustrating fellow sapient being who consistently falls short of the moral and intellectual standards I know you are capable of.

There are literally drive-through testing centers. What planet are you on? Can you still receive radio signals from earth?

Now there are. For a long time though a person without insurance could expect to pay $300 for a Covid test. How many people do you think went ''fuck it'' and continued to go to work, spreading it to everyone?

[Madner Kami]

When did he say SARS-CoV-2 was a hoax? He underestimated how bad it was going to get, absolutely. So did several other politicians and news sources. In the end, the U.S. is doing pretty much in-line with other western nations in how the per capita cases.

Um... Nope. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Compared to the UK, which has about 1/4th of the population, the US has about 7 times as many cases.