Admiral X wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:47 am
Friend of mine actually likes the "Superior" Spiderman, apparently for how over the top he was.
Like I said, it was divisive, many Spidey fans didn't like it because not only did they kill off Peter and replace him with Doc Ock who had Peter's memories but they did it in the milestone 700th issue of Amazing Spider-Man, which was added oil to their fiery disdain. However, the Superior Spider-Man title that followed sold really well, which means a lot of people seem to have enjoyed it while it lasted.
Superior Spider-man was great, it really was a nice change of pace and it did something new with Doc Ock. It was almost a shame when they mashed the reset button at the end of it. I was really hoping the change to Ock would stick. Sadly, alas...
What Marvel has really sucked at lately has been the X-men titles. The whole racist Mutant supremacist, sex cult, thing is not what I what I wanted from those comics nor is it as new and radical as Hickman thinks it is. I can't wait for THAT button mash.
CrypticMirror wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:31 pm
The whole racist Mutant supremacist, sex cult, thing is not what I what I wanted from those comics nor is it as new and radical as Hickman thinks it is. I can't wait for THAT button mash.
Wait, what? I haven't exactly read many X-Men comics, and I know they can get crazy stupid at times (Pope Nightcrawler and exploding holy wafers anyone?), but sex cult? I mean, granted I think mutant racism would vanish the moment most straight men and lesbians set eyes on Rogue, Psylocke and the rest of the X-Women, and we all know the ladies love them some Wolverine, but a Sex Cult? That sounds like something out of an erotic fanfiction, not an official comic.
And yeah, mutant supremacist doesn't sound too out there, wasn't that kind of how Magneto was characterized under a few writers ? Same for Fabian Cortez?
Eishtmo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:45 am
My favorite bit from the film was a two parter. The first is when Peter asks "Do your friends call you Doc Ock?" She replies "My friends call me Liv."
Later Aunt May watches Doc Ock come in and mutters "Great, it's Liv." Which makes you go Hmm.
*makes scissor gesture with hand*
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
It's rather subtle which is what makes it so good. What also helps is that those scenes are far apart and not after another.
"In the embrace of the great Nurgle, I am no longer afraid, for with His pestilential favour I have become that which I once most feared: Death.."
- Kulvain Hestarius of the Death Guard
CrypticMirror wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:31 pm
The whole racist Mutant supremacist, sex cult, thing is not what I what I wanted from those comics nor is it as new and radical as Hickman thinks it is. I can't wait for THAT button mash.
Wait, what? I haven't exactly read many X-Men comics, and I know they can get crazy stupid at times (Pope Nightcrawler and exploding holy wafers anyone?), but sex cult? I mean, granted I think mutant racism would vanish the moment most straight men and lesbians set eyes on Rogue, Psylocke and the rest of the X-Women, and we all know the ladies love them some Wolverine, but a Sex Cult? That sounds like something out of an erotic fanfiction, not an official comic.
And yeah, mutant supremacist doesn't sound too out there, wasn't that kind of how Magneto was characterized under a few writers ? Same for Fabian Cortez?
You need to read the current Krakoa-verse X Men titles, it is pretty bad. And yes, it involves Xavier and MAgneto and Apocalypse and literally every mutant villain except Mystique but only because her wife burned the wrong person alive, in a Krakoan sex-cult which involves kidnapping and brainwashing mutant kids in the name of mutant utopia, and illicitly drugging the entire human population under the pretence of distributing some sort of panacea but not disclosing the side effects. Not to mention the gross violation of national borders and sovereignty that would make even W Bush's CIA say they'd gone too far. It is pretty gross. Oh, and Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean are explicitly in a threesome marriage.
CrypticMirror wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:13 pm
You need to read the current Krakoa-verse X Men titles, it is pretty bad. And yes, it involves Xavier and MAgneto and Apocalypse and literally every mutant villain except Mystique but only because her wife burned the wrong person alive, in a Krakoan sex-cult which involves kidnapping and brainwashing mutant kids in the name of mutant utopia, and illicitly drugging the entire human population under the pretence of distributing some sort of panacea but not disclosing the side effects. Not to mention the gross violation of national borders and sovereignty that would make even W Bush's CIA say they'd gone too far. It is pretty gross. Oh, and Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean are explicitly in a threesome marriage.
Normally I'd hope you were making stuff up, but considering the insane crap Marvel has been known to put out or greenlight, I really can't bring myself to doubt you.
I really loved this movie and the review made me appreciate it even more but I got one question for the whole thing.
Did they ever explain what the spider was that bit Miles? I can't remember the movie ever showing what the spider was. Was it ALSO another Spider-Man who joined in and died when it bit Miles, or what?
Science Fiction is a genre where anything can happen. Just make sure what happens is enjoyable for yourself and your audience.
CrypticMirror wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:13 pm
You need to read the current Krakoa-verse X Men titles, it is pretty bad. And yes, it involves Xavier and MAgneto and Apocalypse and literally every mutant villain except Mystique but only because her wife burned the wrong person alive, in a Krakoan sex-cult which involves kidnapping and brainwashing mutant kids in the name of mutant utopia, and illicitly drugging the entire human population under the pretence of distributing some sort of panacea but not disclosing the side effects. Not to mention the gross violation of national borders and sovereignty that would make even W Bush's CIA say they'd gone too far. It is pretty gross. Oh, and Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean are explicitly in a threesome marriage.
Normally I'd hope you were making stuff up, but considering the insane crap Marvel has been known to put out or greenlight, I really can't bring myself to doubt you.
My dude, the Golden Girls are villains in the comic, and are portrayed as genocidal monsters who use super tech and vegetables to wipe out humanity.
Science Fiction is a genre where anything can happen. Just make sure what happens is enjoyable for yourself and your audience.
Nobody700 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:02 pm
Did they ever explain what the spider was that bit Miles? I can't remember the movie ever showing what the spider was. Was it ALSO another Spider-Man who joined in and died when it bit Miles, or what?
I think the implication was that Spider-Man 2099 and co. sent it there to bite him.
