Into the Spider-Verse

[Mecha82]

I really loved this movie and the review made me appreciate it even more but I got one question for the whole thing.

Did they ever explain what the spider was that bit Miles? I can't remember the movie ever showing what the spider was. Was it ALSO another Spider-Man who joined in and died when it bit Miles, or what?

If I understood right (but I could be wrong about this) that that spider had escaped Alchemax facility because of Miles' uncle had broken in there.

[CmdrKing]

It demonstrates the same glitchy nature as the spider-folk who were sucked into Miles' universe, so it's entirely possible it's from another dimension. Buuut given the stinger I always wondered if the implication was it was from the Alchemax of 2099.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

The whole racist Mutant supremacist, sex cult, thing is not what I what I wanted from those comics nor is it as new and radical as Hickman thinks it is. I can't wait for THAT button mash.

Wait, what? I haven't exactly read many X-Men comics, and I know they can get crazy stupid at times (Pope Nightcrawler and exploding holy wafers anyone?), but sex cult? I mean, granted I think mutant racism would vanish the moment most straight men and lesbians set eyes on Rogue, Psylocke and the rest of the X-Women, and we all know the ladies love them some Wolverine, but a Sex Cult? That sounds like something out of an erotic fanfiction, not an official comic.

And yeah, mutant supremacist doesn't sound too out there, wasn't that kind of how Magneto was characterized under a few writers ? Same for Fabian Cortez?

You need to read the current Krakoa-verse X Men titles, it is pretty bad. And yes, it involves Xavier and MAgneto and Apocalypse and literally every mutant villain except Mystique but only because her wife burned the wrong person alive, in a Krakoan sex-cult which involves kidnapping and brainwashing mutant kids in the name of mutant utopia, and illicitly drugging the entire human population under the pretence of distributing some sort of panacea but not disclosing the side effects. Not to mention the gross violation of national borders and sovereignty that would make even W Bush's CIA say they'd gone too far. It is pretty gross. Oh, and Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean are explicitly in a threesome marriage.

I'm all for taking boring love triangles that outstay their welcome and replacing them with poly triads, but the rest of that sounds utterly horrible.

[Coyote's Own]

Could someone explain the comic that apparently everyone is hating on?

I actually enjoyed both Spider-verse and Spider-geddon quite a bit.

[ChrisTheLovableJerk]

My dude, the Golden Girls are villains in the comic, and are portrayed as genocidal monsters who use super tech and vegetables to wipe out humanity.

And the people working in comics wonder why the industry is dying. Holy shit, this sounds like one of those 'Jump the Shark' ideas Bat-Mite forced into the last episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

[Thebestoftherest]

My dude, the Golden Girls are villains in the comic, and are portrayed as genocidal monsters who use super tech and vegetables to wipe out humanity.

And the people working in comics wonder why the industry is dying. Holy shit, this sounds like one of those 'Jump the Shark' ideas Bat-Mite forced into the last episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

And will likely end just as well. Again I hate government watching over our media but if the comic industry isn't going to limit itself it might need to be force to.

[ran76]

Giving every mutant diplomatic immunity is going to cause massive headaches in the long run

[Mecha82]

Giving every mutant diplomatic immunity is going to cause massive headaches in the long run

Indeed. Especially if you consider that there are mutants like Apocalypse and Sabertooth around.

[Thebestoftherest]

Giving every mutant diplomatic immunity is going to cause massive headaches in the long run

What brought that up?

[Draco Dracul]

The whole racist Mutant supremacist, sex cult, thing is not what I what I wanted from those comics nor is it as new and radical as Hickman thinks it is. I can't wait for THAT button mash.

Wait, what? I haven't exactly read many X-Men comics, and I know they can get crazy stupid at times (Pope Nightcrawler and exploding holy wafers anyone?), but sex cult? I mean, granted I think mutant racism would vanish the moment most straight men and lesbians set eyes on Rogue, Psylocke and the rest of the X-Women, and we all know the ladies love them some Wolverine, but a Sex Cult? That sounds like something out of an erotic fanfiction, not an official comic.

And yeah, mutant supremacist doesn't sound too out there, wasn't that kind of how Magneto was characterized under a few writers ? Same for Fabian Cortez?

You need to read the current Krakoa-verse X Men titles, it is pretty bad. And yes, it involves Xavier and MAgneto and Apocalypse and literally every mutant villain except Mystique but only because her wife burned the wrong person alive, in a Krakoan sex-cult which involves kidnapping and brainwashing mutant kids in the name of mutant utopia, and illicitly drugging the entire human population under the pretence of distributing some sort of panacea but not disclosing the side effects. Not to mention the gross violation of national borders and sovereignty that would make even W Bush's CIA say they'd gone too far. It is pretty gross. Oh, and Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean are explicitly in a threesome marriage.

I think you're reading in something that isn't there with the drugs because the vibe I'm getting isn't that their are some dangerous side effects, but that the drugs themselves exist to stifle development because they are a panacea i.e. it's much harder to make the kind of strides in medicine that would lead to transhumanism if the funding for medical development dries up because there is something cheaper and better on the market right now.

Giving every mutant diplomatic immunity is going to cause massive headaches in the long run

Indeed. Especially if you consider that there are mutants like Apocalypse and Sabertooth around.

Sabbertooth, at least, isn't going to be an issue for a while as he has a long time to think about what he's done.