Coronavirus - the new pandemic

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Draco Dracul wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:31 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:08 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:28 pmBut... aren't the populations bigger? What is the difference? :?:
That was my first thought. The viral nature of it I think though doesn't make it so clear.

It's outbreak from the first day, so I'd think they follow the same logarithmic scale a little more closely, but America has a ton of more populated areas than those places combined in terms of major cities at least. So it's like, even if they start at the same time, you have potentially a bunch of different pools that are gonna take off as it spreads to every major city in the US.
With the exception of Canada all those countries have significantly higher population density than the US.
Pardon me dearly, but to what point does that cater to specifically? My focus was just on the number of major cities in the respective countries. My hypothesis is that "days since first 10 cases" is a strong measure for viral magnitude, but not necessarily for comparison sake between countries. The underlying sentiment I believe also was like "way to go" sarcastically, so I got to thinking it's not a clear comparison.
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The US has a population per square mile of 92.
China has a population per square mile of 375.
The UK has a population per square mile of 1010.

In the UK, there is only 1 city with a population over 1 million, whereas in the US there are 10, and China has 65.

So actually, in terms of overall population density the US is full of wide-open emptiness. It it only when you take into account city populations where you have any density to speak of.
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clearspira wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:19 pm The US has a population per square mile of 92.
China has a population per square mile of 375.
The UK has a population per square mile of 1010.

In the UK, there is only 1 city with a population over 1 million, whereas in the US there are 10, and China has 65.

So actually, in terms of overall population density the US is full of wide-open emptiness. It it only when you take into account city populations where you have any density to speak of.
Birmingham itself is also over a million. And more still if you count continuous built up areas thanks to them growing and merging over time (e.g. Greater Manchester, although some parts of that are a bit separated).
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Riedquat wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:05 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:19 pm The US has a population per square mile of 92.
China has a population per square mile of 375.
The UK has a population per square mile of 1010.

In the UK, there is only 1 city with a population over 1 million, whereas in the US there are 10, and China has 65.

So actually, in terms of overall population density the US is full of wide-open emptiness. It it only when you take into account city populations where you have any density to speak of.
Birmingham itself is also over a million. And more still if you count continuous built up areas thanks to them growing and merging over time (e.g. Greater Manchester, although some parts of that are a bit separated).
I was going by wiki, but yeah, as ever it is a layered issue. I THINK the pop per sq mile is correct though.
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Well, one way of looking at it is the totally unscientific TGLS Urbanecousness coefficient. Basically, take the total population of the top ten metropolitan areas, and divide by the countries total population. The UK has an Urbanecousness of 34%, while the US is at 26%.
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TGLS wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:33 pm Well, one way of looking at it is the totally unscientific TGLS Urbanecousness coefficient. Basically, take the total population of the top ten metropolitan areas, and divide by the countries total population. The UK has an Urbanecousness of 34%, while the US is at 26%.
I just sourced the urbanization of each country. It's up and down for each of them from like 78-82
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https://dnyuz.com/2020/04/13/virginia-pastor-who-defiantly-held-church-service-dies-of-coronavirus/
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TGLS wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:33 pm Well, one way of looking at it is the totally unscientific TGLS Urbanecousness coefficient. Basically, take the total population of the top ten metropolitan areas, and divide by the countries total population. The UK has an Urbanecousness of 34%, while the US is at 26%.
That helps a bit.

Any individual measure will never tell you the whole picture though. The UK includes Scotland, which isn't all that densely populated away from the Central Belt, whereas in England even where you've got separate cities they're pretty close to each other (there aren't many places in England which don't feel next door to a large town or city even if you can't see it), which means normally a lot more traveling between them. I imagine - correct me if I'm wrong - most (albeit not all) US cities are more self-contained.
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Eishtmo wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:48 am https://dnyuz.com/2020/04/13/virginia-pastor-who-defiantly-held-church-service-dies-of-coronavirus/
Okay am I being a sociopath if I laugh at this guy and say he got what he deserved?
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