The great 2020 election thread....

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Eh, no policy statement from Biden should be given a moment's consideration until after the convention and the formal release of the Democratic platform.

And really that the Democrats don't consider his personal conduct to be disqualifying gives me little confidence that platform will be as robust or transformative as it needs to be.

But that falls under the same heading: with no active campaigning and personally delivered, on camera campaign promises happening, everything is air until the convention.

*sigh* You're probably right. Guess I just have to try to vote some delegates over to Bernie, and hope and pray he can sway things to the left while looking up new cocktail recipes and finding out how to decant my own tears into a viable container for mixing.

[CmdrKing]

The main idea is more that Democrats are politicians. While they want to do as little as possible and just make bank as default behavior, unlike their counterparts they acknowledge that doing so requires being seen acting on their promises to voters.

The distinction is just that a website during the primary isn’t treated as such. The formal Democrat Platform released during the convention is, and direct, on camera statements of intent are, but neither has happened since becoming the presumptive nominee.

[TGLS]

If you, like me, are subscribed to Who the Hell is Justin Amash Weekly, you may have heard about this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/politics/justin-amash-president.html

Now the question is, will this complicate the election or accomplish dick-all?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Eh, no policy statement from Biden should be given a moment's consideration until after the convention and the formal release of the Democratic platform.

And really that the Democrats don't consider his personal conduct to be disqualifying gives me little confidence that platform will be as robust or transformative as it needs to be.

But that falls under the same heading: with no active campaigning and personally delivered, on camera campaign promises happening, everything is air until the convention.

*sigh* You're probably right. Guess I just have to try to vote some delegates over to Bernie, and hope and pray he can sway things to the left while looking up new cocktail recipes and finding out how to decant my own tears into a viable container for mixing.

On top of what CK said in response to what this post said, the takeaway that I got from previous post was that the conversation about Biden moving forward on to the general should be inclusive of his demonstrated commitment to those issues.

Inevitably the media is going to pick up on what people are talking about, and it's actually become quite instrumental for common voices to embolden accountability among public figures. That's just a general thing I'm sure everybody here has picked up on over the last few years. But while those issues are to a certain extent presumed to move forward while the election is still on track, particular focus on the integrity of his word can sharpen the responses we can expect to hear.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

[GreyICE]

Joe Biden represents a return to 2015. 2015 was the time things got so bad that Trump was nominated, then elected. A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for repairing the situation so shoddily it just falls apart again.

Trump represents a return to 1939. A vote for Trump represents a vote for a brick through the window. People who could have lived will die if he wins, same as happened when he won in 2016. Don't assume it's the people you want him to murder.

It's like no one can admit shit is broken, except the party full of people whose solution is "if it's broken smash it to pieces and don't suggest a replacement." I'm just waiting for Republicans to start walking around naked because their clothes were developing holes and they burned all ofthem.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I'm planning to vote for Biden but I don't really feel like I can argue with you. That might be because I've missed a few doses of my antidepressants though.

[ProfessorDetective]

Joe Biden represents a return to 2015. 2015 was the time things got so bad that Trump was nominated, then elected. A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for repairing the situation so shoddily it just falls apart again.

Trump represents a return to 1939. A vote for Trump represents a vote for a brick through the window. People who could have lived will die if he wins, same as happened when he won in 2016. Don't assume it's the people you want him to murder.

It's like no one can admit shit is broken, except the party full of people whose solution is "if it's broken smash it to pieces and don't suggest a replacement." I'm just waiting for Republicans to start walking around naked because their clothes were developing holes and they burned all ofthem.

A temp solution is better than none. Let's stop the bleeding first, then we can figure out how to get the wounds stitched up.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Yeah, but the moderate dems always tell us that...

[ProfessorDetective]

Yeah, but the moderate dems always tell us that...

Because it's true.