BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:52 pm
Maybe there is something there, but the guy seems so dismissive of the human condition.
His self description I remember indicated that he would otherwise be like human but with no prevailing place on the food chain. Which is a bit alien for the most part, or at the very least not very much in shades.
Having no desire to watch STD, I've wondered about his character. Seems like the only good thing about the show.
Is that aspect of him a genuine attempt to make alien, or is it typical Sci-Fy mysanthropy leaking through, were the alien outlook is merely a thinly disguised veil to hide the writers disgust at Mankind?
Idunno maybe, but he is in himself the most interesting part as I can tell. To the same regard as Data's emotion chip being a consistent story line in the TNG movies. But story exposure with him is pretty limited. So far in the two seasons, he's got about as much development as Mayweather did by the end of the 4th for Enterprise. A touch more maybe.
He's an omega personality in that he's void of any alpha characteristics. I would guess that he's a composite of Picard's sensitivity and Odo's objectivity/otherness.
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:52 pm
Maybe there is something there, but the guy seems so dismissive of the human condition.
His self description I remember indicated that he would otherwise be like human but with no prevailing place on the food chain. Which is a bit alien for the most part, or at the very least not very much in shades.
Having no desire to watch STD, I've wondered about his character. Seems like the only good thing about the show.
Is that aspect of him a genuine attempt to make alien, or is it typical Sci-Fy mysanthropy leaking through, were the alien outlook is merely a thinly disguised veil to hide the writers disgust at Mankind?
Idunno maybe, but he is in himself the most interesting part as I can tell. To the same regard as Data's emotion chip being a consistent story line in the TNG movies.
He's an omega personality in that he's void of any alpha characteristics. I would guess that he's a composite of Picard's sensitivity and Odo's objectivity/otherness.
From what I've heard, he's a good representation of a creature expressing a herbivore outlook. Something which stands in contrast to humans as omnivores that were herbivores who became proficient carnivores (One could nicely model the Hero's Journey on top of that aspect of human development, I find).
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:52 pm
Maybe there is something there, but the guy seems so dismissive of the human condition.
His self description I remember indicated that he would otherwise be like human but with no prevailing place on the food chain. Which is a bit alien for the most part, or at the very least not very much in shades.
Having no desire to watch STD, I've wondered about his character. Seems like the only good thing about the show.
Is that aspect of him a genuine attempt to make alien, or is it typical Sci-Fy mysanthropy leaking through, were the alien outlook is merely a thinly disguised veil to hide the writers disgust at Mankind?
Idunno maybe, but he is in himself the most interesting part as I can tell. To the same regard as Data's emotion chip being a consistent story line in the TNG movies.
He's an omega personality in that he's void of any alpha characteristics. I would guess that he's a composite of Picard's sensitivity and Odo's objectivity/otherness.
From what I've heard, he's a good representation of a creature expressing a herbivore outlook. Something which stands in contrast to humans as omnivores that were herbivores who became proficient carnivores (One could nicely model the Hero's Journey on top of that aspect of human development, I find).
Yes. Again I'd say it reminds me of Odo to that regard because he's kind of socially isolated in the same way. It's cold and taut in personality unlike Spock who is just distant, Phlox who is pacified, Data who is sterile, or Worf who is hot and pressed (though taut himself as far as duty).
Saru is a weird example because his culture is a manufactured one even in-universe. They're actually omnivores with a powerful hunting instinct; the whole "herbivore prey species" bit is a complete lie they were told to keep them in line after another race (an actual herbivores species they had hunted to near extinction) turned the tables and conquered them.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
1 solid theory is that all human-like aliens are par-dimensional entities that block humans from seeing their true form, like Q but less god-like and more zen.
1 fluid theory that I find better is that all human aliens are the unwitting progeny of mankind from their subconscious will, full in flesh but not thought. Which explains a lot of their surface culture but not the layers underneath. This may be much but the overuse and abuse of Rubberhead-Aliens trope is just disgusting right now and I personally prefer it would go behind the house and be put down, with two 20g slugshots.
Do not pity a Slave for the Slave-Lord, but hear the power of what Chaos can be.
All Beings bow before the children of he who bound their flesh by their words.
Fall and wail, all flesh, bone, soul,& power is a servant to Yun-man, the First Slave-Lord.
