Coronavirus - the new pandemic

[Darth Wedgius]

Hey, remember how when the Black Death swept across Europe, Christians attacked Jewish people and blamed them for causing it?

https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/05/11/the-mayor-says-you-jews-are-getting-us-all-sick-nyc-couple-cite-de-blasio-during-violent-assault-on-brooklyn-hasidim/

Now might be a good time to rewatch a certain B5 episode while drinking and sobbing.

I don't know how much that's happening, but it's part of a bigger, overall problem that seems to have been building for a long time now.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/report-anti-semitic-incidents-in-us-hit-record-high-in-2019

And I don't blame de Blasio for this one. Some idiots will just take any excuse.

[Darth Wedgius]

And you think he doesn't ever negotiate or compromise with people who don't want exactly the same thing?

"We're all fighting battles, but I love fighting these battles."
"We love winners. We love winners. Winners are winners."

Do you actually have a good example of him compromising with anyone? Sitting back and letting others have their say? Accepting they have good points, and that you have to let them do their thing? Actually staying out of something that affects him? Can you show me this history of compromise he's shown in his presidency?

I mean I know you can't, so lets see what insults you come back with. It should be fucking hilarious.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46935595

[GreyICE]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46935595

Wait, so your example of "compromise" actually comes with fucking quotation marks? And the compromise is, in order:

1) The Democrats fund his wall exactly like he demands.
2) He doesn't end a program that he doesn't have the power to end

So in other words, his "compromise" was to offer not to do something he can't do, in exchange for the Democrats giving him everything he wants.

You know what? That's not even a compromise! That's called a threat. You can't tell the difference between compromising and threatening people! "Okay Jimmy, we'll give you a compromise. You pay the boss what he's owed, and we don't break your kneecaps". That's your idea of a compromise!

What a fucking joke. You're a clown.

[Darth Wedgius]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46935595

Wait, so your example of "compromise" actually comes with fucking quotation marks? And the compromise is, in order:

1) The Democrats fund his wall exactly like he demands.
2) He doesn't end a program that he doesn't have the power to end

So in other words, his "compromise" was to offer not to do something he can't do, in exchange for the Democrats giving him everything he wants.

You know what? That's not even a compromise! That's called a threat. You can't tell the difference between compromising and threatening people! "Okay Jimmy, we'll give you a compromise. You pay the boss what he's owed, and we don't break your kneecaps". That's your idea of a compromise!

What a fucking joke. You're a clown.

Did you read the article? The BBC put scare quotes on compromise, but so what? Not everything he was offering was court-ordered. He was willing to offer something to give something.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

[GreyICE]

Did you read the article? The BBC put scare quotes on compromise, but so what? Not everything he was offering was court-ordered. He was willing to offer something to give something.

Trump offered to do something bad unless he got what he wanted. Here's some examples of that:

"Give me the money in the till or I'll shoot you."
"Hand over the purse lady, and no one gets hurt."
"Scream and I'll cut your throat."

Yes, I read the article you nitwit. You think those are compromises? Can you really honestly quote those, look at them and say "yep, that's what compromising is about"?

You fucking clown.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

This is all drifting a bit. Let's get back to the topic.

In a CNN poll, by 71 percent to 26 percent, Republicans said the worst of the pandemic is behind us, while Democrats said the worst is yet to come by 74 percent to 23 percent.


Those changes are less transformative than suggestive — for now. But they come at a time when the rhetoric from the right claiming that stay-at-home orders are a knife plunged in the heart of American liberty are intensifying. Even masks are becoming a culture war touchpoint, with some conservatives saying only cowards wear them, while manly Americans gather in groups to freely share their mucus with one another.


To repeat, opinion on the pandemic has not yet become completely polarized. The number of Americans rushing to defy stay-at-home orders is still small. But it isn’t hard to imagine that before long, it could become widely accepted that to be a Republican in good standing, one must agree that the death count is overstated, the pandemic has been defeated, economic activity must resume immediately whether testing is in place or not and, of course, that Trump has done an absolutely masterful job handling this crisis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/13/why-trump-needs-pandemic-be-polarized/

[Darth Wedgius]

Did you read the article? The BBC put scare quotes on compromise, but so what? Not everything he was offering was court-ordered. He was willing to offer something to give something.

Trump offered to do something bad unless he got what he wanted. Here's some examples of that:

"Give me the money in the till or I'll shoot you."
"Hand over the purse lady, and no one gets hurt."
"Scream and I'll cut your throat."

Yes, I read the article you nitwit. You think those are compromises? Can you really honestly quote those, look at them and say "yep, that's what compromising is about"?

You fucking clown.

Let's see. Trump offered extension of the visas for TPS holders for three years, $800m in urgent humanitarian assistance, 2,750 more border agents and security officials and 75 new immigration judge teams.

In return, Trump would get spending for his border fence.

And a quick look at the definition for compromise:

"an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions"

So yes, Trump was willing to compromise. He was willing to make concessions in return for the other side making concessions.

Are the facts as I explained them wrong? Or is the definition of compromise wrong?

[Darth Wedgius]

A bit more on the possible link to Vitamin D deficiency and Covid 19 health risk. I know the title refers to racial incidence, but that's just part of it (basically, whites get vitamin D from sunlight the easiest, and are less likely to be lactose intolerant). It also mentions obesity and the role of Vitamin D in helping to prevent "cytokine storms".

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1548/rr-6

[GreyICE]

Let's see. Trump offered extension of the visas for TPS holders for three years, $800m in urgent humanitarian assistance, 2,750 more border agents and security officials and 75 new immigration judge teams.

In return, Trump would get spending for his border fence.

Did you miss the part where they'd already had that agreement... a year ago? Did you just fail to read downwards?

It's a touch ironic that the deal Mr Trump outlined - his wall in exchange for protection for certain childhood undocumented migrants and temporary resident aliens - was one the president walked away from last year, when Democrats were the ones instigating a shutdown.

After senators thought they had an agreement, the White House issued new demands for reforms to legal immigration.

Now Democrats are in control of the House, and the calculus has changed. Mr Trump's offer of temporary immigrant protection probably isn't any greater than the ones courts have already imposed.

Greeeaaaattt compromiser.

You didn't read your own article, did you? So instead he went back to that and pitched a hissy fit screaming he'd end DREAM if he couldn't get his wall.