Trump Becomes "Lava Level Mad"

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Re: Trump Becomes "Lava Level Mad"

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SSJGodGoku wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:16 amYou could say the exact same thing about the Democratic party. They're running a sexual predator as a candidate after all.
Oh gee, it's "pick which sexual predator you vote for". Yes, we've covered that. Okay, both parties are running sexual predators. Good times.

Do you care to discuss Global Warming?
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:22 pm Trump doesn't believe in anthropogenic global warming, and I disagree with him on that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/29/opinion/sunday/republicans-climate-change-polls.html

Being a Republican doesn't mean not believing in global warming, or even anthropogenic global warming.

Next. :)
Okay, so Trump and the majority of the Republican party either don't believe in global warming, or deny it for political reasons, as we covered.

So, lets go on to the air we breath. Trump reversed many, many air pollution regulations, as well as environmental regulations. Here's a good list: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks.html

It also has a good summary report that is extensively cited and researched:
Adverse health impacts.
States will also suffer other dangerous environmental and health
effects from the repeal of the Waste Prevention Rule. The Waste Prevention Rule was anticipated
to cut emissions of VOCs, a precursor to ozone, by 250,000-267,000 tons annually and reduce
toxic air pollutants, such as benzene, by 1,860-2,030 tons each year.
112 Increases in smog and
toxic air pollutants significantly increase the rates of asthma, heart disease and lung disease and
the risk of cancer in communities surrounding oil and gas fields.113
For example, Kern County is the site of more than 95 percent of all federal drilling in California,
and parts of the county are in nonattainment with the 2008 federal 8-hour ozone standard and
federal fine particulate matter standards, as well as certain state standards.114 Due to this excess
pollution, including methane, particulate matter, and VOCs, this community has an increased
risk of asthma, heart disease, lung disease, and certain cancers.115 Kern County leads the state of
California in number of days with air quality concerns due to particulate pollution.116
https://www.law.nyu.edu/sites/default/files/climate-and-health-showdown-in-the-courts.pdf

So I suppose that we're left with two choices.

1) Trump doesn't believe the science that dumping shit into the air and making other people breath it kills them.
2) Trump wants to kill thousands of people because money is more important.

I would have said number 2 was saturday morning cartoon villain and he just didn't believe the science, but then Corona happened, and yep, it turns out killing a few thousand people for some extra money in a rich man's pocket literally is the Republican party policy.

So you tell me: anti science, or pro-murder here?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:23 am
SSJGodGoku wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:16 am
GreyICE wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:59 pm I've been out of college a long time. But hey, tell us all about whatever courses you're looking forward to taking when you go off to college. It'd be healthier than what you're currently doing.

As for me, I'm just pointing out that to support the Republican party in the US, you have to be a drooling moron entirely incapable of logical thought in any form whatsoever, or a psychopath who enjoys lying and hurting people.

That's what the evidence shows, and as we know, all you care about is the evidence.
You could say the exact same thing about the Democratic party. They're running a sexual predator as a candidate after all.
You mean Biden?
Who else?
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GreyICE wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:25 am
SSJGodGoku wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:16 amYou could say the exact same thing about the Democratic party. They're running a sexual predator as a candidate after all.
Oh gee, it's "pick which sexual predator you vote for". Yes, we've covered that. Okay, both parties are running sexual predators. Good times.

Do you care to discuss Global Warming?
What about it? :roll:
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SSJGodGoku wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 4:46 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:23 am
SSJGodGoku wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:16 am
GreyICE wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:59 pm I've been out of college a long time. But hey, tell us all about whatever courses you're looking forward to taking when you go off to college. It'd be healthier than what you're currently doing.

As for me, I'm just pointing out that to support the Republican party in the US, you have to be a drooling moron entirely incapable of logical thought in any form whatsoever, or a psychopath who enjoys lying and hurting people.

That's what the evidence shows, and as we know, all you care about is the evidence.
You could say the exact same thing about the Democratic party. They're running a sexual predator as a candidate after all.
You mean Biden?
Who else?
Anthony Weiner?
..What mirror universe?
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SSJGodGoku wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 4:46 pm
GreyICE wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:25 am
SSJGodGoku wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:16 amYou could say the exact same thing about the Democratic party. They're running a sexual predator as a candidate after all.
Oh gee, it's "pick which sexual predator you vote for". Yes, we've covered that. Okay, both parties are running sexual predators. Good times.

Do you care to discuss Global Warming?
What about it? :roll:
Well, why the Republicans deny it and are seeking to, if anything, accelerate it.

Are you aware this will get people killed? Are you the ignorant school of Republican (it won't happen) or the psychopath school (I don't care if a bunch of people die)?
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GreyICE wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:36 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:22 pm Trump doesn't believe in anthropogenic global warming, and I disagree with him on that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/29/opinion/sunday/republicans-climate-change-polls.html

Being a Republican doesn't mean not believing in global warming, or even anthropogenic global warming.

Next. :)
Okay, so Trump and the majority of the Republican party either don't believe in global warming, or deny it for political reasons, as we covered.
Partially wrong. A majority of Republicans do believe in climate change.
GreyICE wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:36 am
https://observer.com/2019/07/climate-change-republicans-conservative-solution/

So, lets go on to the air we breath. Trump reversed many, many air pollution regulations, as well as environmental regulations. Here's a good list: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks.html

It also has a good summary report that is extensively cited and researched:
Adverse health impacts.
States will also suffer other dangerous environmental and health
effects from the repeal of the Waste Prevention Rule. The Waste Prevention Rule was anticipated
to cut emissions of VOCs, a precursor to ozone, by 250,000-267,000 tons annually and reduce
toxic air pollutants, such as benzene, by 1,860-2,030 tons each year.
112 Increases in smog and
toxic air pollutants significantly increase the rates of asthma, heart disease and lung disease and
the risk of cancer in communities surrounding oil and gas fields.113
For example, Kern County is the site of more than 95 percent of all federal drilling in California,
and parts of the county are in nonattainment with the 2008 federal 8-hour ozone standard and
federal fine particulate matter standards, as well as certain state standards.114 Due to this excess
pollution, including methane, particulate matter, and VOCs, this community has an increased
risk of asthma, heart disease, lung disease, and certain cancers.115 Kern County leads the state of
California in number of days with air quality concerns due to particulate pollution.116
https://www.law.nyu.edu/sites/default/files/climate-and-health-showdown-in-the-courts.pdf

So I suppose that we're left with two choices.

1) Trump doesn't believe the science that dumping shit into the air and making other people breath it kills them.
2) Trump wants to kill thousands of people because money is more important.

I would have said number 2 was saturday morning cartoon villain and he just didn't believe the science, but then Corona happened, and yep, it turns out killing a few thousand people for some extra money in a rich man's pocket literally is the Republican party policy.

So you tell me: anti science, or pro-murder here?
That's a false dichotomy.

People die in car crashes, so we should outlaw cars, right? If you disagree with that, are you anti-science or pro-murder? Is convenience more important that lives?! What kind of inhumane monster are you? :lol:

Again, more training in logic might help you here.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:30 am
GreyICE wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:36 amOkay, so Trump and the majority of the Republican party either don't believe in global warming, or deny it for political reasons, as we covered.
Partially wrong. A majority of Republicans do believe in climate change.
Another lie? Predictable. Polling data gives us this: https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2019/11/25/u-s-public-views-on-climate-and-energy/

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Which unsurprisingly shows that only 14% attribute "some" of global warming to climate change when the proper answer is "the entire, fucking amount of warming is 100% due to climate change (actually about 104%).
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:30 am Again, more training in logic might help you here.
Oh right! I forgot the other thing you were going to do besides lie! You were going to toss insults around, because you're a fucking moron who covers up for that fact by acting like a six year old.

You're a liar and a clown. Again.

So to summarize, Republicans lie, Republicans deny science, and Republicans are total pieces of shit like DarthWedgius here.
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GreyICE wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:52 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:30 am
GreyICE wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:36 amOkay, so Trump and the majority of the Republican party either don't believe in global warming, or deny it for political reasons, as we covered.
Partially wrong. A majority of Republicans do believe in climate change.
Another lie? Predictable. Polling data gives us this: https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2019/11/25/u-s-public-views-on-climate-and-energy/

Image

Which unsurprisingly shows that only 14% attribute "some" of global warming to climate change when the proper answer is "the entire, fucking amount of warming is 100% due to climate change (actually about 104%).
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:30 am Again, more training in logic might help you here.
Oh right! I forgot the other thing you were going to do besides lie! You were going to toss insults around, because you're a fucking moron who covers up for that fact by acting like a six year old.

You're a liar and a clown. Again.

So to summarize, Republicans lie, Republicans deny science, and Republicans are total pieces of shit like DarthWedgius here.
:lol: As long as we're being rational here. :lol:

So you don't think Republicans believing humans contribute to climate change is Republicans believing in climate change. Allowing for what seems to be confusion on your part about global warming vs. climate change vs. human factors causing it, but OK.

And you don't appreciate being called out on a false dichotomy. Hey fair, enough. Some people don't like being exposed in a mistake, and lash out rather than taking it as a learning experience.

But I've seen nothing that makes me really value your opinion, and, I imagine, that works in reverse as well. And I'm happy for others following along to evaluate the evidence and come to their own conclusions.

That sounds fair to me. Does it sound fair to you?
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:09 am So you don't think Republicans believing humans contribute to climate change is Republicans believing in climate change. Allowing for what seems to be confusion on your part about global warming vs. climate change vs. human factors causing it, but OK.

And you don't appreciate being called out on a false dichotomy. Hey fair, enough. Some people don't like being exposed in a mistake, and lash out rather than taking it as a learning experience.
Oh. So you don't believe that humans cause climate change. So you're going with science denial. Glad that's settled

And you also don't believe Trump's clean air rules will cause death
https://www.law.nyu.edu/sites/default/files/climate-and-health-showdown-in-the-courts.pdf

Despite, again, copious evidence you can't possible respond to.
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:09 amBut I've seen nothing that makes me really value your opinion, and, I imagine, that works in reverse as well. And I'm happy for others following along to evaluate the evidence and come to their own conclusions.
Sure. Here's how it's going to work. Any time anyone else brings up the Republicans, I'll mention that the entire party is either too stupid to realize that they are murdering people, or just don't see any problems with that. And I'll post links to this science that you can't possibly respond to if they question it.

And you'll have no response except to say "that's not true! Even if I can't respond to the science at all, I can't admit it's right!" And everyone will see both your level of intelligence, and what a goddamn clown you are.
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