Robovski wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 12:10 am
It is more a matter of completely underestimating the achievements of the past because we do things with cranes and bulldozers and lay people need to be educated, not told "it's aliens" when we don't know how a people did something that they clearly did do. Historically while this does sometimes apply to say Stonehenge or the Pyramids, it is more often applied to the Nazca Lines or the step pyramids of the New world. It may not be often racism that drives this but more the arrogance that we could not possibly (as humans) known how to do something that we cannot do now and that is patently false. Techniques are lost (even in the modern world) when people stop using them and move on to new methods and ways. A ready example: you want to build a new Saturn V rocket? Good luck, the heavy industry fabrication techniques used in implementing the design are lost to the generations in the US. Use it or lose it is a saying for a reason.
Very well put. As someone with a lifelong interest in history, archaeology and technological development, I am honestly always amazed at how creative, ingenious and industrious people could and can be, even in the very distant past, or more recent historical settings in locations that were not resource-rich to develop all manner of technologies. Human ingenuity is very impressive, knows few bounds, for better or worse.
As much as I can harp on the likes of Roddenberry for his frequent hypocrises in his supposedly enlightened attitudes about the future (largelly self-aggrandizing anyway), one thing he got very right was saying something to the effect of "aliens didn't build the pyramids, humans did, because they're smart and work hard". That's a good attitude to have, especially in an era where the "ancient astronaut" obsession was at its peak and something of a cottage industry.
TOS is not without sin in the "ancient astronaut" mania, as it had the whole silly "transplanted Indian tribes" episode, TAS has the blatantly Däniken-esque Cuculchan ep, Voyager had the annoying
Tattoo episode. (Notice that it's repeatedly Native Americans being branded as "primitives needing saving from aliens". A rather outdated attitude already at the time, given that all NA cultures, even the technologically humblest, have been shown to be far from primitive, even in terms of crafts and material culture.)
Also, if we lose knowledge of how some construction technique and so on was utilized in the past... That's what either archives or experimental archaeology are for. A huge amount of work on recreating or better understanding past technologies not commonly in use today has come from successful experimental archaeology.