ICE spraying refugees

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ICE spraying refugees

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https://laist.com/2020/05/22/advocates_file_complaint_over_chemical_use_at_adelanto_detention_center.php
For two weeks, ICE has sprayed this chemical 100 times a day at the Adelanto Detention Center outside Los Angeles.

People inside are bleeding, their eyes are burning, and they can't get away for even a minute.

They're being poisoned. -Never Again Action
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This is why I hate following the news. So much depressing stuff you can't change, and I knew this was gonna be inevitable when I had felt I had to vote for my mother's sake. Such a shame... that people could treat other human beings this way. I have no idea what's wrong with these people.
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Captain Crimson wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 1:36 am This is why I hate following the news. So much depressing stuff you can't change, and I knew this was gonna be inevitable when I had felt I had to vote for my mother's sake. Such a shame... that people could treat other human beings this way. I have no idea what's wrong with these people.
Did you ever think that the FUCKING PRESIDENT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT?

Like this is in fact very easy to change because no other president has done this. Even back in the World War 2 we didn't spray chemicals on our concentration camps.
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GreyICE wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 2:07 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 1:36 am This is why I hate following the news. So much depressing stuff you can't change, and I knew this was gonna be inevitable when I had felt I had to vote for my mother's sake. Such a shame... that people could treat other human beings this way. I have no idea what's wrong with these people.
Did you ever think that the FUCKING PRESIDENT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT?

Like this is in fact very easy to change because no other president has done this. Even back in the World War 2 we didn't spray chemicals on our concentration camps.
I don't have to defend myself to you on this. That's a world of power far removed from anywhere I am at this moment.
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It makes sense Trump would be this cruel, and his followers love him for it.
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Re: ICE spraying refugees

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Captain Crimson wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 2:30 am
GreyICE wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 2:07 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 1:36 am This is why I hate following the news. So much depressing stuff you can't change, and I knew this was gonna be inevitable when I had felt I had to vote for my mother's sake. Such a shame... that people could treat other human beings this way. I have no idea what's wrong with these people.
Did you ever think that the FUCKING PRESIDENT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT?

Like this is in fact very easy to change because no other president has done this. Even back in the World War 2 we didn't spray chemicals on our concentration camps.
I don't have to defend myself to you on this. That's a world of power far removed from anywhere I am at this moment.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You log onto this website of your own free will and type posts because you feel like doing it.

Even if you have no power to change who sits in the highest office on the land, it would be nice if you could re-read what you posted and acknowledge the truth about the situation instead of going "Woah is me, man's universal inhumanity to man has nothing to do with party, ideology, or current leadership."

Maybe your vote won't change anything. Maybe you can't directly affect those in power. But every time you perpetuate this false equivalency, you make it easier for evil men to rule.
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Re: ICE spraying refugees

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 3:25 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 2:30 am
GreyICE wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 2:07 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 1:36 am This is why I hate following the news. So much depressing stuff you can't change, and I knew this was gonna be inevitable when I had felt I had to vote for my mother's sake. Such a shame... that people could treat other human beings this way. I have no idea what's wrong with these people.
Did you ever think that the FUCKING PRESIDENT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT?

Like this is in fact very easy to change because no other president has done this. Even back in the World War 2 we didn't spray chemicals on our concentration camps.
I don't have to defend myself to you on this. That's a world of power far removed from anywhere I am at this moment.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You log onto this website of your own free will and type posts because you feel like doing it.

Even if you have no power to change who sits in the highest office on the land, it would be nice if you could re-read what you posted and acknowledge the truth about the situation instead of going "Woah is me, man's universal inhumanity to man has nothing to do with party, ideology, or current leadership."

Maybe your vote won't change anything. Maybe you can't directly affect those in power. But every time you perpetuate this false equivalency, you make it easier for evil men to rule.
I already do enough good in my own personal life without having to worry about the millions out there who are also in need or concern myself with trivialities like who resides in the highest echelons of power. If I had the ability to influence it, would I? Sure. To the H in a heartbeat! But I don't. Not unless I won the lottery.
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Re: ICE spraying refugees

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You're still spreading and reinforcing lies that help them. What, you think you get a free pass on any propaganda talking points you regurgitate because you helped enough beggars today?

I'm saying that you DO have some power to make things easier for them by reinforcing their lies, which is what you do.
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Re: ICE spraying refugees

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 4:44 pm You're still spreading and reinforcing lies that help them. What, you think you get a free pass on any propaganda talking points you regurgitate because you helped enough beggars today?

I'm saying that you DO have some power to make things easier for them by reinforcing their lies, which is what you do.
What, specifically, do you think I've said that would make it "propaganda?" With intent to deceive and push an agenda? That is the definition for propaganda.
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Captain Crimson wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 4:52 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 4:44 pm You're still spreading and reinforcing lies that help them. What, you think you get a free pass on any propaganda talking points you regurgitate because you helped enough beggars today?

I'm saying that you DO have some power to make things easier for them by reinforcing their lies, which is what you do.
What, specifically, do you think I've said that would make it "propaganda?" With intent to deceive and push an agenda? That is the definition for propaganda.
I don't know anything about your intent or agenda but I think just quoting "propaganda" and implying the definition applys to your words and intent is at least bordering on deception.
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