Deathbattle matches you want to see.

[Beelzquill]

All too easy for them to just get into a NLF. After they said that a multiversal spirit bomb couldn't kill Superman, that he is "not meant to lose" and misinterpreted all his feats - re, ex, holding a micro black hole is hardly an impressive feat when the correlation between size and gravity here would make it the size of a mountain, at best - I don't want any characters with a potential NLF near the show. I also hear Saitama was in the running to fight Goku once, but they seem to have dropped that. Thank goodness.

allright what is NLF? and for that matter what is TGF? I swear I leave this forum for couple a months and it's like being Alfred the Great hearing modern English for the first time.

[Captain Crimson]

All too easy for them to just get into a NLF. After they said that a multiversal spirit bomb couldn't kill Superman, that he is "not meant to lose" and misinterpreted all his feats - re, ex, holding a micro black hole is hardly an impressive feat when the correlation between size and gravity here would make it the size of a mountain, at best - I don't want any characters with a potential NLF near the show. I also hear Saitama was in the running to fight Goku once, but they seem to have dropped that. Thank goodness.

allright what is NLF? and for that matter what is TGF? I swear I leave this forum for couple a months and it's like being Alfred the Great hearing modern English for the first time.

No-limits fallacy, which is a logical fallacy that just because no upper defined limits are shown, you will assume there are none. Saitama of OPM is a walking avatar to this, kind of by design.

TeenGohanFighter is this extremely toxic debater YouTuber who, while making a few valid points, goes on blistering DB rants and conveys his points very poorly. Plus his own habit in calling DB biased while ignoring his own biases is irritating. I mean, it's been five years since GVS2. Move on, man.

[Beelzquill]

All too easy for them to just get into a NLF. After they said that a multiversal spirit bomb couldn't kill Superman, that he is "not meant to lose" and misinterpreted all his feats - re, ex, holding a micro black hole is hardly an impressive feat when the correlation between size and gravity here would make it the size of a mountain, at best - I don't want any characters with a potential NLF near the show. I also hear Saitama was in the running to fight Goku once, but they seem to have dropped that. Thank goodness.

allright what is NLF? and for that matter what is TGF? I swear I leave this forum for couple a months and it's like being Alfred the Great hearing modern English for the first time.

No-limits fallacy, which is a logical fallacy that just because no upper defined limits are shown, you will assume there are none. Saitama of OPM is a walking avatar to this, kind of by design.

TeenGohanFighter is this extremely toxic debater YouTuber who, while making a few valid points, goes on blistering DB rants and conveys his points very poorly. Plus his own habit in calling DB biased while ignoring his own biases is irritating. I mean, it's been five years since GVS2. Move on, man.

Thank you, i appreciate the explanation. Agree that death battle applied that fallacy but I don't really know superman comics well enough to say he'd lose.

[Riedquat]

Plus his own habit in calling DB biased while ignoring his own biases is irritating.

Find me anyone who doesn't do that!

[Captain Crimson]

Plus his own habit in calling DB biased while ignoring his own biases is irritating.

Find me anyone who doesn't do that!

Make note of the other point I'd raised. He conveys his points poorly. JAR summed it up like this:

1) He has a condescending attitude.
2) He repeats his points over and over again.
3) He presents only one piece of evidence.
4) He is garbage at video presentation.

At least other YouTubers make more proper debunk videos that have a respectable format. He's too lazy to do that. Plus he pulls the "I'm learning disabled!" card as a shield from criticism.

[Scififan]

Etrigan the Demon vs. Zarathos the Ghost Rider.

[Scififan]

A two part episode. The first Bucky vs. the first Robin. Then Nightwing vs. the Winter Soldier.

[clearspira]

The problem with Superman of course is that there isn't just one Superman - there is a thousand of them spread out over a century.

Justice League Unlimited Superman for example was incredibly weak, he got knocked around by mid-level mooks every week. He was equal to Wonder Woman and slower than the Flash.

Justice League film Superman on the other hand was unstoppable. He took the entire JL whilst half dead and pissed over the Flash.

Clearly, these two Superman(men?) Are in a completely different league. We are talking Super Saiyan 1 and Super Saiyan 3 here.

But obviously it doesn't stop there. Silver Age Superman was a God who could bend reality. He could take both of those Super(men) at the same time and probably both Justice Leagues too.

Basically, saying "Superman is so and so strong because of these 15 different stories" does not work. At least Goku or Naruto have a consistant progression from a single author.

[sayla0079]

Well watching She-ra vs Wonder Woman it didn't go the way I had hoped but it did make sense with the end result.

[phantom000]

Well watching She-ra vs Wonder Woman it didn't go the way I had hoped but it did make sense with the end result.

Basically, Anything VS. DC i don't bother watching because DC characters are just so over-powered its not even a close fight.

Personally, given that they have done mecha battles; Megazord VS. Voltron, Dragonzord VS. Mechagodzilla, why not do some spaceship battles?

Serenity Vs. Millenium Falcon

or

Colonial Viper Vs. X-Wing.