Joe Arpaio pardon

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

45 has pardoned a man who ran a jail that he, Joe Arpaio, described as "a concentration camp."

[Robovski]

He was guilty of contempt of court for carrying out a law Arizona citizens voted in*. None of the other charges (and he was denied a trial by jury) stuck. The real thing is that 44 wanted him out of office, he got what he wanted. I feel Joe should have complied with the court order but without any of the actual charges sticking I don't have a problem with the pardon.

Here is a 2009 Nightline piece on him and his ''Tent City'' as he commonly called it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdLeWyUqI0

*Note: While I live in Arizona, and have for 3 years now, this is before me.

[The Romulan Republic]

Not surprised that you would defend the pardon of a man who literally ran a concentration camp where he detained people for the crime of looking like an illegal immigrant (i.e. be Latino).

Trump's pardon amounts to condoning concentration camps for minorities, and also sends a message that the law no longer applies to you if you're one of the President's friends, cronies, or otherwise a racist authoritarian scumbag.

Frankly, this to me is an indication that we need a Constitutional Amendment either stripping or constraining the President's power to pardon.

[Arkle]

Joe Arpaio is a monster. Valencia Voldemort is sending a clear message to his supporters with this pardon; If you are white and racist, I am on your side, even if you break the law. Of course, we knew that already with his "both sides" nun-fuckery regarding Charlottesville, but for people with both a brain AND a conscience, this should seal the deal.

And I do not use the term monster loosely.

From: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ts/538119/

"Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Phoenix-based department repeatedly arrested Latinos illegally, abused them in the county jails and failed to investigate hundreds of sexual assaults, the Justice Department charged after a three-year civil rights investigation," the Los Angeles Times reported. The investigation found "432 cases of sexual assault and child molestation, often involving Latinos, that were not properly investigated over a three-year period." Additionally, "one Latino was intentionally hit by a patrol car and dragged, with instructions for other deputies to 'leave him there ... A Latino motorist was incarcerated for 13 days for not using his turn signal. Emails written by deputies caricatured Mexicans as being from 'Mexifornia,' and deputies derided Latino inmates as 'wetbacks,' 'Mexican bitches,' 'stupid Mexicans' and other epithets."(The Los Angeles Times)

"Maricopa County Sheriff's officials misspent $99.5 million in restricted jail funds over the last eight years ... discrepancies existed for years between sheriff's employees' actual duties and the duties reported in county payroll records." (The Arizona Republic)

"A federal judge has sided with inmates' claims that conditions in Maricopa County jails continue to violate their constitutional rights." (The Arizona Republic)

"The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office failed to adequately investigate more than 400 sex-crime cases, including dozens in El Mirage, over a two-year period because of poor oversight and former Chief Deputy David Hendershott's desire to protect a key investigator from bad publicity, according to documents pertaining to a recent internal investigation released by the Sheriff's Office." (The Arizona Republic)

"A federal investigation found that deputies had used stun guns on prisoners already strapped into a 'restraint chair.' The family of one man who died after being forced into the restraint chair was awarded more than six million dollars as the result of a suit... The family of another man killed in the restraint chair got $8.25 million in a pre-trial settlement. (This deal was reached after the discovery of a surveillance video that showed fourteen guards beating, shocking, and suffocating the prisoner, and after the sheriff's office was accused of discarding evidence, including the crushed larynx of the deceased.) To date, lawsuits brought against Arpaio's office have cost Maricopa County taxpayers forty-three million dollars, according to some estimates. But the Sheriff has never acknowledged any wrongdoing in his jails, never apologized to victims or their families. In fact, many of the officers involved have been promoted." (The New Yorker)

"The Phoenix New Times ran an investigation of Arpaio's real-estate dealings that included Arpaio's home address, which he argued was possibly a violation of state law. When the paper revealed that it had received an impossibly broad subpoena, demanding, among other things, the Internet records of all visitors to its Web site in the previous two and a half years, sheriff's deputies staged late-night raids on the homes of Michael Lacey and James Larkin, executives of Village Voice Media, which owns the New Times. The deputies arrested both men for, they said, violating grand-jury secrecy. The county attorney declined to prosecute, and it turned out that the subpoenas were issued unlawfully." (The New Yorker)

On numerous occasions Arpaio put political opponents in his cross-hairs, eventually prompting an FBI investigation that began in the last days of the Bush Administration. (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... steps.html)

The man Agent Orange pardoned is a racist, Birther conspriacy theorist who failed his community, especially children who were sexually assaulted. He violated the civil rights of Latinx people, and to reiterate the point of my first paragraph, pardoning the racist Sherrif for violating the Constitution so flagrantly sends the massge that the current goddamn President of the Untied States approves of that behavior.

This is why I say that you are inherently an immoral, bigoted, pro-fascist person if you voted for the Tangerine Taint. No exceptions. There are no good Trump Voters. Just the intentionally racist ones, and the too stupid to know they were being racist ones. If I thought prayer was something that actually worked, I'd feel no guilt about praying for each and every single one of you 62 million pieces of shit to get incurable genital cancer. And hey, with Toupee Fiasco's gutting of environmental protections, that might end up happening to a lot of you anyway, especially if you live in a state that has a lot of polluting industries. I hope ruining this country was worth feeling good about "making Libtards angry," you sociopathic fucks.

Edited to fix some grammar and spelling errors.

[Arkle]

Oh hey, there was also that time Sherrif Joe wasted AZ tax payer money by investigating a phony assassination attempt on him THAT HE STAGED HIMSELF! http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/a-p ... on-6629798

Honestly, this man is such scum of the Earth, I'd be okay if it were SF Debris Forum Policy that defending that man was grounds for banning from the site.

[The Romulan Republic]

Joe Arpaio is a monster. Valencia Voldemort is sending a clear message to his supporters with this pardon; If you are white and racist, I am on your side, even if you break the law. Of course, we knew that already with his "both sides" nun-fuckery regarding Charlottesville, but for people with both a brain AND a conscience, this should seal the deal.

And I do not use the term monster loosely.

From: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ts/538119/

"Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Phoenix-based department repeatedly arrested Latinos illegally, abused them in the county jails and failed to investigate hundreds of sexual assaults, the Justice Department charged after a three-year civil rights investigation," the Los Angeles Times reported. The investigation found "432 cases of sexual assault and child molestation, often involving Latinos, that were not properly investigated over a three-year period." Additionally, "one Latino was intentionally hit by a patrol car and dragged, with instructions for other deputies to 'leave him there ... A Latino motorist was incarcerated for 13 days for not using his turn signal. Emails written by deputies caricatured Mexicans as being from 'Mexifornia,' and deputies derided Latino inmates as 'wetbacks,' 'Mexican bitches,' 'stupid Mexicans' and other epithets."(The Los Angeles Times)

"Maricopa County Sheriff's officials misspent $99.5 million in restricted jail funds over the last eight years ... discrepancies existed for years between sheriff's employees' actual duties and the duties reported in county payroll records." (The Arizona Republic)

"A federal judge has sided with inmates' claims that conditions in Maricopa County jails continue to violate their constitutional rights." (The Arizona Republic)

"The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office failed to adequately investigate more than 400 sex-crime cases, including dozens in El Mirage, over a two-year period because of poor oversight and former Chief Deputy David Hendershott's desire to protect a key investigator from bad publicity, according to documents pertaining to a recent internal investigation released by the Sheriff's Office." (The Arizona Republic)

"A federal investigation found that deputies had used stun guns on prisoners already strapped into a 'restraint chair.' The family of one man who died after being forced into the restraint chair was awarded more than six million dollars as the result of a suit... The family of another man killed in the restraint chair got $8.25 million in a pre-trial settlement. (This deal was reached after the discovery of a surveillance video that showed fourteen guards beating, shocking, and suffocating the prisoner, and after the sheriff's office was accused of discarding evidence, including the crushed larynx of the deceased.) To date, lawsuits brought against Arpaio's office have cost Maricopa County taxpayers forty-three million dollars, according to some estimates. But the Sheriff has never acknowledged any wrongdoing in his jails, never apologized to victims or their families. In fact, many of the officers involved have been promoted." (The New Yorker)

"The Phoenix New Times ran an investigation of Arpaio's real-estate dealings that included Arpaio's home address, which he argued was possibly a violation of state law. When the paper revealed that it had received an impossibly broad subpoena, demanding, among other things, the Internet records of all visitors to its Web site in the previous two and a half years, sheriff's deputies staged late-night raids on the homes of Michael Lacey and James Larkin, executives of Village Voice Media, which owns the New Times. The deputies arrested both men for, they said, violating grand-jury secrecy. The county attorney declined to prosecute, and it turned out that the subpoenas were issued unlawfully." (The New Yorker)

On numerous occasions Arpaio put political opponents in his cross-hairs, eventually prompting an FBI investigation that began in the last days of the Bush Administration. (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... steps.html)

The man Agent Orange pardoned is a racist, Birther conspriacy theorist who failed his community, especially children who were sexually assaulted. He violated the civil rights of Latinx people, and to reiterate the point of my first paragraph, pardoning the racist Sherrif for violating the Constitution so flagrantly sends the massge that the current goddamn President of the Untied States approves of that behavior.

This is why I say that you are inherently an immoral, bigoted, pro-fascist person if you voted for the Tangerine Taint. No exceptions. There are no good Trump Voters. Just the inte ntionally racist ones, and the one too stupid to know they were being racist ones. If I thought prayer was something that actually worked, I'd feel no guilt about praying for each and every si ngle one of you 62 million piece of shit to get incurable genital cancer. And hey, with Toupee Fiasco's gutting of environemnal protections, that might end up happening to a lot of you anyway, especially if you live in a state that has a lot of piolluting industries. I hope ruining this country was worth feeling good about "making Libtards angry," you sociopathic fucks.

Christ, I knew Arpaio was bad, but this makes me think that he should be prosecuted Nuremberg-style for Crimes Against Humanity. And Trump pardons him.

Nonetheless, I can't say that wishing for the painful deaths of 62 million people shows you in a very good light.

[Arkle]

Nonetheless, I can't say that wishing for the painful deaths of 62 million people shows you in a very good light.

Probably not, but if we grade on a curve, a lot of these people want Nazi-style purges of Muslims, and there's about 2 BILLION of them, so...

And it's not like I want to kill them all myself*. Unless they come to my neighborhood to start harrasing my mostly POC neighbors, in which case those MAGA hats will make for nice easy targets for my alumnium bat.

* Or to have my government kill them for me. I guess I'm hoping there's something to this whole "karma" idea. Though I suppose if we lived in a just world Rapey McTinyhands would never have become President in the first place would he?

[Steve]

This is why I say that you are inherently an immoral, bigoted, pro-fascist person if you voted for the Tangerine Taint. No exceptions. There are no good Trump Voters. Just the inte ntionally racist ones, and the one too stupid to know they were being racist ones. If I thought prayer was something that actually worked, I'd feel no guilt about praying for each and every single one of you 62 million pieces of shit to get incurable genital cancer. And hey, with Toupee Fiasco's gutting of environmental protections, that might end up happening to a lot of you anyway, especially if you live in a state that has a lot of polluting industries. I hope ruining this country was worth feeling good about "making Libtards angry," you sociopathic fucks.

Edited to fix some grammar and spelling errors.

Arkle, this is beyond the pale and completely unacceptable. Honestly, I think you need to take a few hours or days or whatever is necessary to calm down if you're so wound up you think openly desiring the unpleasant deaths of 62 million people is just fine and dandy behavior.

[Arkle]

Arkle, this is beyond the pale and completely unacceptable.

So is saying that anti-fascists are "just as bad" as actual Nazis, yet I don't see the people on this forum who do that get these kinds of warnings. I'm not on every single topic of the News section though, so if you can show me examples of that happening that I missed I will GLADLY take this statement back.

[LittleRaven]

So...anyway, back on topic.

This is red meat for the base, and they'll eat it up. But under the momentary adulation Trump is sure to get from those that already love him, this move is actually going to continue to widen the fissure within the GOP. The GOP establishment does not want the Republican party to officially become the racist party, and they are not happy that Trump is doing everything he can to take them down this path.

House Speaker Paul Ryan on Saturday attacked President Donald Trump for pardoning former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio, joining several other Republicans to criticize the controversial decision.

I have limited sympathy for Ryan, though. He had to know that putting Trump in charge would forever alter the soul of the Republican party, but his lust for tax cuts was too great, and it blinded him to the danger.