Another day, another police beating in America

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:46 pm Police in my city are taping their badge numbers https://imgur.com/gallery/tvag2gv
That... HAS to be illegal. Right?
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I've seen photos of cops doing this with blue tape, which is supposed to represent the "thin blue line".

Those bad apples truly have spoiled the departments.
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Well I heard we got some anti police downtown here with some vandalism, which is too bad, but our police chief is apparently speaking supportively about the national movement, so that's good.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:44 pm Don't bother trying to converse with Captain Crimson anymore folks, his comment about "collective guilt" should have told you everything you needed to know about his character. I'm done discussing anything with him.
He's a both sider he pretends to condemn both sides but in reality it's show he can push right-wing ideas and viewpoints.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:29 am When you call out on bullies they tend to overreact: [url]https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1268769465023463429[/url]

Thank goodness for the invention of the cell phone to expose thugs like these.
You have noticed, that someone threw or spewed something at the cops, right? Their reaction is over the top, but it does not come from nowhere.
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Madner Kami wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:26 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:29 am When you call out on bullies they tend to overreact: [url]https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1268769465023463429[/url]

Thank goodness for the invention of the cell phone to expose thugs like these.
You have noticed, that someone threw or spewed something at the cops, right? Their reaction is over the top, but it does not come from nowhere.
Yeah, it was water. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyone remember when the cops refused to do their jobs and police a Beyonce concert because Beyonce's doing a Black Panther (organization) performance during the superbowl?

This par for the course for cops. A bunch of whiny, fragile mother fuckers with guns.
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unknownsample wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:25 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:44 pm Don't bother trying to converse with Captain Crimson anymore folks, his comment about "collective guilt" should have told you everything you needed to know about his character. I'm done discussing anything with him.
He's a both sider he pretends to condemn both sides but in reality it's show he can push right-wing ideas and viewpoints.
Maybe inflammatory propaganda.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:13 pm 57 officers from the Buffalo Police Department have resigned as a show of support for the officers that were suspended without pay for shoving a 75 year old man that put him in critical condition.

https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/buffalo/entire-bpd-emergency-response-team-resigns-in-support-of-suspended-officers/

If that's what police brotherhood is all about, then these departments should be disbanded like the Minneapolis PD has been.


Here's a great book to read. And good news, it's been made free following George Floyd's death!

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Click the "Ebook" tab, and you can get it for free.

Vitale does amazing groundwork showing the changes to the culture of policing, and showing how and where alternatives to policing have succeeded - reformative justice, legalization (especially drug legalization), and harm reduction. Vitale shows these have actually succeeded in reducing crime, and are also less expensive - from the position of an average citizen, a win/win.

There are alternatives to solve crime besides "more policing". And these protests are showing why they're needed.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:31 pmYeah, it was water. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyone remember when the cops refused to do their jobs and police a Beyonce concert because Beyonce's doing a Black Panther (organization) performance during the superbowl?

This par for the course for cops. A bunch of whiny, fragile mother fuckers with guns.
It could have been everything, from water over spirits to acid. If tensions are high, you do not act in a way that escalates the situation at hand. Throwing anything a these policemen was dumb and was asking for retaliation.

And you can even see the thing developing in realtime there. Some liquid gets thrown at the cops, one of the armed cops begins to aim as the cop that likely got the liquid spilled on him points at the perpetrator. The cop next to him joins and it snowballs from there. This is exactly the reason, why the protests have to stay peaceful and non-agressive.

But heyho, staying on SFDebris-forums and Twitter, clapping gleefully as some cops beat down yet another unarmed man, while others get what they had coming, while all you do is watch a few videos and pictures and ignoring the context, is your thing... Enjoy the bright future you are creating there.
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Madner Kami wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:44 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:31 pmYeah, it was water. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyone remember when the cops refused to do their jobs and police a Beyonce concert because Beyonce's doing a Black Panther (organization) performance during the superbowl?

This par for the course for cops. A bunch of whiny, fragile mother fuckers with guns.
It could have been everything, from water over spirits to acid. If tensions are high, you do not act in a way that escalates the situation at hand. Throwing anything a these policemen was dumb and was asking for retaliation.

And you can even see the thing developing in realtime there. Some liquid gets thrown at the cops, one of the armed cops begins to aim as the cop that likely got the liquid spilled on him points at the perpetrator. The cop next to him joins and it snowballs from there. This is exactly the reason, why the protests have to stay peaceful and non agressive.
I think we're in agreement that retaliation is expected, but how they actually handled that was an overreaction. Officers have plenty of other means to retaliate, but it always seems they jump straight to aggressive force even at the most minor things. It doesn't help that the rhetoric Trump has been spreading reflects that overreaction with phrases like "DOMINATE!"
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