The great 2020 election thread....

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Sure would be nice if the nominating conventions for both parties weren't just rubber stamp shows this year and were an actual selection convention like they used to be. Could be a way of turning some of this shit around this year.
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When? 60 Years ago there were basically no primaries and smoke-filled rooms decided who the nominee was. Now the system is simply so screwed up momentum results in one nominee emerging real fast. A president who sought the nomination hasn't ever failed to receive it (though nomination fights have torpedoed generals). The probable solution is probably reforming the system to have ranked ballots held everywhere all at once.
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No I'm with Robovski on this one. Yes, there was a time when the party machine totally controlled nominees, but a lot has changed since then and I'd prefer to not go back to those times even halfway.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:05 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:50 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:58 pm Looks like we have a climate conspiracy theorist on the forum.
I am not. I believe in climate change, and that it's being done by humans. But I also refuse to accept the world literally, physically stops in ten years. WE ALL DIE. By 2030. That's hyperbole, and you know it.
So you heard this from some random people at your work place. I'm just not sure how that is supposed to be important with regard to Biden and the Democrats, especially considering they've never said that the world will end in that time frame.
You failed to get my point. Let me clarify.

Young students are coming into my workplace through the school program. And you know what? People talk. About anything, everything. And during the course of these natural human conversations, politics will somehow come up. And for these young students, many of them have been so convinced by the alarmist media and the fearmongering left the world only has ten years left before the human race goes extinct, that it's stressed them out and a few I've talked to have even had nightmares over it. This is irresponsible. This is the next generation paying the price for our mistakes. And they don't deserve it. At all.
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Re: The great 2020 election thread....

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Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:05 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:50 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:58 pm Looks like we have a climate conspiracy theorist on the forum.
I am not. I believe in climate change, and that it's being done by humans. But I also refuse to accept the world literally, physically stops in ten years. WE ALL DIE. By 2030. That's hyperbole, and you know it.
So you heard this from some random people at your work place. I'm just not sure how that is supposed to be important with regard to Biden and the Democrats, especially considering they've never said that the world will end in that time frame.
You failed to get my point. Let me clarify.

Young students are coming into my workplace through the school program. And you know what? People talk. About anything, everything. And during the course of these natural human conversations, politics will somehow come up. And for these young students, many of them have been so convinced by the alarmist media and the fearmongering left the world only has ten years left before the human race goes extinct, that it's stressed them out and a few I've talked to have even had nightmares over it. This is irresponsible. This is the next generation paying the price for our mistakes. And they don't deserve it. At all.
Irresponsible by who? The broadness of the bipartisan landscape is a difference of tidal gravity and you're essentially just talking about waves that break on shore.

How is this supposed to influence a practical assessment of the general politicing landscape?
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:00 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:05 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:50 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:58 pm Looks like we have a climate conspiracy theorist on the forum.
I am not. I believe in climate change, and that it's being done by humans. But I also refuse to accept the world literally, physically stops in ten years. WE ALL DIE. By 2030. That's hyperbole, and you know it.
So you heard this from some random people at your work place. I'm just not sure how that is supposed to be important with regard to Biden and the Democrats, especially considering they've never said that the world will end in that time frame.
You failed to get my point. Let me clarify.

Young students are coming into my workplace through the school program. And you know what? People talk. About anything, everything. And during the course of these natural human conversations, politics will somehow come up. And for these young students, many of them have been so convinced by the alarmist media and the fearmongering left the world only has ten years left before the human race goes extinct, that it's stressed them out and a few I've talked to have even had nightmares over it. This is irresponsible. This is the next generation paying the price for our mistakes. And they don't deserve it. At all.
Irresponsible by who? The broadness of the bipartisan landscape is a difference of tidal gravity and you're essentially just talking about waves that break on shore.

How is this supposed to influence a practical assessment of the general politicing landscape?
To confess, I may be a bit... out of the loop on this one. Since I don't watch cable news. Or follow online news. I just know what I'm seeing coming from the kids I work around. And it's disgusting. You got democrats and republicans locked into two sides, and both hate each other so much, they believe they're going to destroy the world, that all they can see is each other and no one else. It reminds me about what's been said in B5 slightly modified. They're consumed with each other's [defeat] until that is all they can see and all they deserve.
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Re: The great 2020 election thread....

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Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:06 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:00 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:05 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:50 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:58 pm Looks like we have a climate conspiracy theorist on the forum.
I am not. I believe in climate change, and that it's being done by humans. But I also refuse to accept the world literally, physically stops in ten years. WE ALL DIE. By 2030. That's hyperbole, and you know it.
So you heard this from some random people at your work place. I'm just not sure how that is supposed to be important with regard to Biden and the Democrats, especially considering they've never said that the world will end in that time frame.
You failed to get my point. Let me clarify.

Young students are coming into my workplace through the school program. And you know what? People talk. About anything, everything. And during the course of these natural human conversations, politics will somehow come up. And for these young students, many of them have been so convinced by the alarmist media and the fearmongering left the world only has ten years left before the human race goes extinct, that it's stressed them out and a few I've talked to have even had nightmares over it. This is irresponsible. This is the next generation paying the price for our mistakes. And they don't deserve it. At all.
Irresponsible by who? The broadness of the bipartisan landscape is a difference of tidal gravity and you're essentially just talking about waves that break on shore.

How is this supposed to influence a practical assessment of the general politicing landscape?
To confess, I may be a bit... out of the loop on this one. Since I don't watch cable news. Or follow online news. I just know what I'm seeing coming from the kids I work around. And it's disgusting. You got democrats and republicans locked into two sides, and both hate each other so much, they believe they're going to destroy the world, that all they can see is each other and no one else. It reminds me about what's been said in B5 slightly modified. They're consumed with each other's [defeat] until that is all they can see and all they deserve.
So on what basis do you compare this to Trump and the Republicans? If you're just talking about something you have no critical grasp on, then where are you coming off saying that Trump is no worse?
..What mirror universe?
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Re: The great 2020 election thread....

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:21 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:06 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:00 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:05 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:50 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:58 pm Looks like we have a climate conspiracy theorist on the forum.
I am not. I believe in climate change, and that it's being done by humans. But I also refuse to accept the world literally, physically stops in ten years. WE ALL DIE. By 2030. That's hyperbole, and you know it.
So you heard this from some random people at your work place. I'm just not sure how that is supposed to be important with regard to Biden and the Democrats, especially considering they've never said that the world will end in that time frame.
You failed to get my point. Let me clarify.

Young students are coming into my workplace through the school program. And you know what? People talk. About anything, everything. And during the course of these natural human conversations, politics will somehow come up. And for these young students, many of them have been so convinced by the alarmist media and the fearmongering left the world only has ten years left before the human race goes extinct, that it's stressed them out and a few I've talked to have even had nightmares over it. This is irresponsible. This is the next generation paying the price for our mistakes. And they don't deserve it. At all.
Irresponsible by who? The broadness of the bipartisan landscape is a difference of tidal gravity and you're essentially just talking about waves that break on shore.

How is this supposed to influence a practical assessment of the general politicing landscape?
To confess, I may be a bit... out of the loop on this one. Since I don't watch cable news. Or follow online news. I just know what I'm seeing coming from the kids I work around. And it's disgusting. You got democrats and republicans locked into two sides, and both hate each other so much, they believe they're going to destroy the world, that all they can see is each other and no one else. It reminds me about what's been said in B5 slightly modified. They're consumed with each other's [defeat] until that is all they can see and all they deserve.
So on what basis do you compare this to Trump and the Republicans? If you're just talking about something you have no critical grasp on, then where are you coming off saying that Trump is no worse?
I think our communication lines got 86'd somewhere along the way. I'll elaborate.

Hypocrisy is the bread and butter of American politics now. Mr. 45 is just the loudest and most obvious hypocrite of them all, which is why I think his supporters adore him so much. That he drives most news outlets crazy is also a bonus. No, I don't believe the GOP has responsible climate policies, and the DNC does. But their methods are divorcing them from their cause when on our level, at the individual street blocks, they're terrifying the next generation. It's not just climate change. It's all these riots, and a new shooting practically every day.

I met a zoomer who told me she was thinking about how great it'd be if she had never been born after a practice drill on what to do during a shooting. It was heartbreaking. And this is not a matter of how the GOP is pure evil. The democrats are stoking the flames of outrage in their own way. It has to stop. Where do we draw the line?
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Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:27 pm
I think our communication lines got 86'd somewhere along the way. I'll elaborate.

Hypocrisy is the bread and butter of American politics now. Mr. 45 is just the loudest and most obvious hypocrite of them all, which is why I think his supporters adore him so much. That he drives most news outlets crazy is also a bonus. No, I don't believe the GOP has responsible climate policies, and the DNC does. But their methods are divorcing them from their cause when on our level, at the individual street blocks, they're terrifying the next generation. It's not just climate change. It's all these riots, and a new shooting practically every day.
Actually a more active concern is specifically an agenda for Climate Change activism overall. The actual data that's coming off more as a macguffin in your story gives a lot of cause for concern and alarm is reasonably priced on the menu as well.

Again, my point here is that this is a rational concern that's being exhibited. If you're talking about irresponsibility, then your concerns leave some more balance to be desired.
I met a zoomer who told me she was thinking about how great it'd be if she had never been born after a practice drill on what to do during a shooting. It was heartbreaking. And this is not a matter of how the GOP is pure evil. The democrats are stoking the flames of outrage in their own way. It has to stop. Where do we draw the line?
I'm not sure if you're using the shooting drills as a metaphor, because I'm fairly certain there's bipartisan support on those drills. As far as being a metaphor, I don't see how the Republicans' appalling climate policies is balanced by people that got misinformation from a completely unknown source in your personal account.
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