Is theft a crime?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Now that I've reeled you in with my clickbait provocative title, have some food for thought on wage theft
https://twitter.com/djmckenna00/status/1269218616861437952?s=21

[clearspira]

What is wage theft?

[TGLS]

What is wage theft?

Because whining at people for not googling things is never productive:

Wage theft is the denial of wages or employee benefits rightfully owed to an employee. It can be conducted by employers in various ways, among them failing to pay overtime; violating minimum-wage laws; the misclassification of employees as independent contractors, illegal deductions in pay; forcing employees to work "off the clock", not paying annual leave or holiday entitlements, or simply not paying an employee at all.

[clearspira]

What is wage theft?

Because whining at people for not googling things is never productive:

Wage theft is the denial of wages or employee benefits rightfully owed to an employee. It can be conducted by employers in various ways, among them failing to pay overtime; violating minimum-wage laws; the misclassification of employees as independent contractors, illegal deductions in pay; forcing employees to work "off the clock", not paying annual leave or holiday entitlements, or simply not paying an employee at all.

Must be an American thing.

[Riedquat]

Sounds more like abuse and exploitation than theft.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

What is wage theft?

Bunch of bamboozling

Sounds more like abuse and exploitation than theft.

Pretty clear in the title imo. You take what doesn't belong to you.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

What is wage theft?

Because whining at people for not googling things is never productive:

Wage theft is the denial of wages or employee benefits rightfully owed to an employee. It can be conducted by employers in various ways, among them failing to pay overtime; violating minimum-wage laws; the misclassification of employees as independent contractors, illegal deductions in pay; forcing employees to work "off the clock", not paying annual leave or holiday entitlements, or simply not paying an employee at all.

Must be an American thing.

Happens in any economic system pretty much.

It tends to work with higher ups in more non-profit initiatives since those companies are financed with top-level-down funds managed by directors while profit firms typically get wrung through its financial arteries ie accountants or managers.

[Riedquat]

Pretty clear in the title imo. You take what doesn't belong to you.

Not giving what you should and taking what you shouldn't aren't quite the same thing, even though neither are acceptable.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Pretty clear in the title imo. You take what doesn't belong to you.

Not giving what you should and taking what you shouldn't aren't quite the same thing, even though neither are acceptable.

That's not what the wiki said at all lol.

It's a matter of circumventing payment that's owed, not a hypothetical of what should be. Like one thing that happens is they'll change pay codes so that overtime gets clocked as regular time or something. Health benefits, that accrue on margins that you're not supposed to keep account of that find their way into the CCO's bank account. Or like in Superman 3.

[Robovski]

Richard Prior's character had all the rounding fragments sent to his paycheck, it's not quite the same as the employee wasn't going to get a fragment of a cent unless the system kept track of those fragments to pay whole pennies later. Also he wasn't the employer, just a guy working there who didn't have subordinates. Usually this refers to companies or employers not paying for things that should be compensated for, like breaks, overtime at the wrong rate, not paying overtime at all that would be contractually due, not honoring agreed or contracted expenses...