It is a real stretch of the imagination to think that someone is waiting for their home to be broken into just to have the opportunity to legally kill another person. i suppose it could happen, but Occam's Razor says that is an improbable explanation for a death in that situation.Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:06 pm People have been getting away with murder for a long time. The castle doctrine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine ) lets people get away with what some people would consider murder but the law doesn't. As does "stay your ground." Or eating meat.
Is theft a crime?
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Re: Is theft a crime?
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Re: Is theft a crime?
I think the "castle doctrine is murder" crowd isn't saying that it's a way to get away with premeditated murder. I think they're basically saying that it lets people shoot intruders that objectors to the castle doctrine don't think should be shot.Mickey_Rat15 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:12 pmIt is a real stretch of the imagination to think that someone is waiting for their home to be broken into just to have the opportunity to legally kill another person. i suppose it could happen, but Occam's Razor says that is an improbable explanation for a death in that situation.Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:06 pm People have been getting away with murder for a long time. The castle doctrine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine ) lets people get away with what some people would consider murder but the law doesn't. As does "stay your ground." Or eating meat.
But that's my interpretation of what I think they are trying to say. Myself, I support the castle doctrine and stand your ground rules.
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Well it probably shouldn't be treated the same if murder is on the menu.Mickey_Rat15 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:06 pmWhat does that have to do with what my original post?BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:49 pmPeople get away with murder when someone intrudes inside their home.Mickey_Rat15 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:39 pm Should not living up to your contractual obligations be treated the same as a mugging or a burglary? Maybe.
Should not paying rent or your car payment be treated as a mugging or burglary?
Should a failure to give a contractually olbigatory monetary renumeration be treated as a crime exactly like theft?
Anyways I don't see much reason that dollar for dollar they get the same kind of punishment. That of course doesn't account for possibly hostile and physical crimes that might be committed in person.
..What mirror universe?