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GreyICE wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:25 pmUh huh. So which grade are we talking about here? All 12? Come on, pick one. We'll go find a textbook from that grade level, and see if that's the only content in it.
Do you think this claim is going to stand up?
All the way to college/uni
I was lucky, I actually read the textbook, beyond the prescribed pages the professor gave us. People are lazy and it's hard enough to get people out of their bubbles before professors started putting people in them on purpose.
Oh so what you're saying is that we're not going to find any evidence for your claim in the textbook, because the textbook has other history. It's just that that other stuff isn't taught in the classroom, even though it's in the textbook.
Can you give me a grade level and I can find a typical lesson plan then?
Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs
GreyICE wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:25 pmUh huh. So which grade are we talking about here? All 12? Come on, pick one. We'll go find a textbook from that grade level, and see if that's the only content in it.
Do you think this claim is going to stand up?
All the way to college/uni
I was lucky, I actually read the textbook, beyond the prescribed pages the professor gave us. People are lazy and it's hard enough to get people out of their bubbles before professors started putting people in them on purpose.
Oh so what you're saying is that we're not going to find any evidence for your claim in the textbook, because the textbook has other history. It's just that that other stuff isn't taught in the classroom, even though it's in the textbook.
Can you give me a grade level and I can find a typical lesson plan then?
You know what you will never find in a modern history textbook? The declassified files proving the USSR had direct connections to the socialist parties in Hollywood.
you won't watch it this is for other people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtinTlx7yo&t=499s
Here is common core. It really starts to pick up at grade 11:
https://www.cde.ca.gov/be/st/ss/documents/histsocscistnd.pdf
I just want to say one more time I never defended slavery or any other flaw of historical figures but I just can't see them as evil because they also did really great things. and it wouldn't have been great for me at the time either since Irish weren't treated nicely at that point but it was the founding of America was the groundwork for what was good for everyone. they made the Constitution so it could be altered, after all.
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:49 am
I remember my history class teaching me about how history is written by the winners.
Funny how that works. What will they feed us next?
All the more reason to look at the loser's side of the story to see what the winners swept under the rug, for the sake of their own historical narrative.
And as for George Washington tearing down the statue of King George, when he was forced out of New York he took all the church bells because they were that desperate for ammunition. It was about meeting an immediate need, rather than making a political statement.
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 am
I think the confederate fanboys can still talk about how much they should have won even after we take away their participation trophies.
What has me worried is that many of these protesters don't want to deal with the process of making a positive, long lasting change, but they want to feel like they achieved something. So they tear down a statue and they feel good about themselves because it gave them an adrenaline rush, like they actually achieved something, but of course they didn't.
So what do they do when they run out of statues and monuments to pull down and they're right back where they started?
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 am
I think the confederate fanboys can still talk about how much they should have won even after we take away their participation trophies.
