Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Antiboyscout wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:51 pmThat is a good argument. Too bad it isn't the one black activist are using. They're sticking with, "amerikkka was built by slaves so we are owed a piece of the pie."
You know that's just a proposal either way right? I'll listen to NPR in Hawaii and there's people that talk about reclaiming Hawaii for themselves all the time.
..What mirror universe?
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phantom000 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:40 pm I think a symbol, of anything, only means what you want it to mean. Originally the swastika was about Tibetan spirituality, not white supremacy, and the cross symbolized Roman authority and brutality.

So to me a lot of these Confederate Memorials are not about glorifying slavery, or even the Confederacy itself, they are an acknowledgement that these men were human beings just like anyone else. Even if you want to argue; it does not change the fact that they fought and died for a corrupt cause, that just adds to the tragedy of it. They were good people fighting and dying for a cause that was not theirs since most of the confederate soldiers were slave owners or even worked for one.
So you are in favor of participation trophies at sporting events?
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and some SJWs have said that the you can't use the dictionary to define racism because it doesn't have the full definition and it's really about systems of power and not about supremacist beliefs.

if that's true, why doesn't the dictionary have the full, definitive definition of racism?
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The dictionary is where you go for a very basic definition of things. You go to the dictionary to learn what a shark is if you live in Iowa. If you want to learn a lot about sharks, or understand their true phylogenic relationship and how actually a tuna is more closely related to you than a shark, you go to biology textbook. If you want to know what a car is because you're Amish, you read a dictionary. If you want to know how cars work, what distinguishes a car from a dune buggy, etc., you go ask a mechanic.

The dictionary is for the beginning and the basics. Peer-reviewed authorities are for the best definitions.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:21 am The dictionary is where you go for a very basic definition of things. You go to the dictionary to learn what a shark is if you live in Iowa. If you want to learn a lot about sharks, or understand their true phylogenic relationship and how actually a tuna is more closely related to you than a shark, you go to biology textbook. If you want to know what a car is because you're Amish, you read a dictionary. If you want to know how cars work, what distinguishes a car from a dune buggy, etc., you go ask a mechanic.

The dictionary is for the beginning and the basics. Peer-reviewed authorities are for the best definitions.
so, you are saying racism IS about systems of power and not about supremacist beliefs? because most racists aren't powerful, most racists are trailer park rednecks.
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That's a very popular myth and a common misconception. Most of the racists who are easy to spot are in the trailer park. There are racists in the cities and racists in the country. There are racists who are poor and racists who are rich. Don't judge everything based on the cliches of Stephen King novels.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:24 am That's a very popular myth and a common misconception. Most of the racists who are easy to spot are in the trailer park. There are racists in the cities and racists in the country. There are racists who are poor and racists who are rich. Don't judge everything based on the cliches of Stephen King novels.
but if not all racists are rich and powerful, the idea that it's about systems of power doesn't really work, it would only work if that was true of all racists.
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So do you AGREE with what I said or DISAGREE? Because I need to know if you understand that life is not a late 90s sitcom, and as such racists exist in the halls of power and not just in trailer parks full of funny toothless drunks.

Beyond that I am BEGGING you to read a Book about something societal. Audible.com has a pretty good series of audiobooks called the Great Courses were you can hear from college level lecturers.
Better yet, college texbooks have practically no resale value so you can get them really cheap secondhand.

Read a Philosophy 101 book. Read any book about philosophy. Read The Color of Wealth. Read a book about racism. Or sociology. Or anthropology. Or economics. Just get some new ideas into that head of yours instead of constantly reheating the old ones.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:16 am So do you AGREE with what I said or DISAGREE? Because I need to know if you understand that life is not a late 90s sitcom, and as such racists exist in the halls of power and not just in trailer parks full of funny toothless drunks.
yeah, they exist in positions of power but the idea I was contesting only works if ALL racists are in positions of power.
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