JK Rowling Backlash

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:59 pm
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JK Rowling is more powerful, famous and well known than probably all of the trans folks you've ever met, combined. Yet, she wants to frame herself as a person being bullied into feeling a certain way.
Logically, one does not contradict the other. Trans people have allies, do they not?
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Open letter: The real cancel culture is hundreds of thousands of employers being able to cancel your job (and your healthcare) for any reason they want, including thinking wrong thoughts. That’s a long-standing labor policy consensus moreso than a new culture war. Signed, me.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:20 pm
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Open letter: The real cancel culture is hundreds of thousands of employers being able to cancel your job (and your healthcare) for any reason they want, including thinking wrong thoughts. That’s a long-standing labor policy consensus moreso than a new culture war. Signed, me.
And it was only wrong when the weapon was used by your enemies instead of yourself.

I see how it is
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Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:12 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:20 pm
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Open letter: The real cancel culture is hundreds of thousands of employers being able to cancel your job (and your healthcare) for any reason they want, including thinking wrong thoughts. That’s a long-standing labor policy consensus moreso than a new culture war. Signed, me.
And it was only wrong when the weapon was used by your enemies instead of yourself.

I see how it is
I that's why a long existing political weapon suddenly got a new name and a huge backlash, it started to be used on conservatives rather than just by them.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:48 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:12 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:20 pm
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Open letter: The real cancel culture is hundreds of thousands of employers being able to cancel your job (and your healthcare) for any reason they want, including thinking wrong thoughts. That’s a long-standing labor policy consensus moreso than a new culture war. Signed, me.
And it was only wrong when the weapon was used by your enemies instead of yourself.

I see how it is
I that's why a long existing political weapon suddenly got a new name and a huge backlash, it started to be used on conservatives rather than just by them.
Pretty sure, getting fired for being black or a communist has been illegal since the 60's. The hatchet was buried. Why'd you have to go dig it up again?
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People who get to complain about "cancel culture":

Sinead O'Connor
The [s]Dixie[/s] Chicks
Monica Lewinsky
Small-time Tumblr artist chased away for lewds

People who do not get to complain about "cancel culture":

Sex offenders
Bigots
Dipshits who print a call for executing civilians in the streets from a sitting senator without even fucking reading it
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The difference is that the employers can fire you on a whim, whereas no amount of people saying "yeah she sucks" and deciding to stop buying Harry Potter merch will have the slightest effect on J K R's well-being.

One is "you can lose your audience and popularity for saying bad things", one is "you lose your job". It's that all the people complaining about the "dangers" of cancel culture have jack shit to say about people who get fired for complaining about their employers on off hours.
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Re: JK Rowling Backlash

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Antiboyscout wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:24 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:48 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:12 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:20 pm
@mattdpearce
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Open letter: The real cancel culture is hundreds of thousands of employers being able to cancel your job (and your healthcare) for any reason they want, including thinking wrong thoughts. That’s a long-standing labor policy consensus moreso than a new culture war. Signed, me.
And it was only wrong when the weapon was used by your enemies instead of yourself.

I see how it is
I that's why a long existing political weapon suddenly got a new name and a huge backlash, it started to be used on conservatives rather than just by them.
Pretty sure, getting fired for being black or a communist has been illegal since the 60's. The hatchet was buried. Why'd you have to go dig it up again?
One, you can still be fired for being a communist most places as political ideology is not a protected class. Two, that's not actually relevant as the kind of public shaming of celebrities to kill their careers was a thing when I was a kid back in the late 90s/early 2000s with the biggest example being The Dixie Chicks get drummed out of the music industry for over 15 years for calling Bush II a moron.
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CmdrKing wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:02 am People who get to complain about "cancel culture":

Sinead O'Connor
The [s]Dixie[/s] Chicks
Monica Lewinsky
Small-time Tumblr artist chased away for lewds

People who do not get to complain about "cancel culture":

Sex offenders
Bigots
Dipshits who print a call for executing civilians in the streets from a sitting senator without even fucking reading it
Since you've said that white men are evil, are you in the second group?
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:14 am The difference is that the employers can fire you on a whim, whereas no amount of people saying "yeah she sucks" and deciding to stop buying Harry Potter merch will have the slightest effect on J K R's well-being.

One is "you can lose your audience and popularity for saying bad things", one is "you lose your job". It's that all the people complaining about the "dangers" of cancel culture have jack shit to say about people who get fired for complaining about their employers on off hours.
Goya food boycott? Someone fired from Google for questioning their "diversity" policies?
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