Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

This is for topical issues effecting our fair world... you can quit snickering anytime. Note: It is the desire of the leadership of SFDebris Conglomerate that all posters maintain a civil and polite bearing in this forum, regardless of how you feel about any particular issue. Violators will be turned over to Captain Janeway for experimentation.
Darth Wedgius
Captain
Posts: 2948
Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:43 pm

Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by Darth Wedgius »

Nick Cannon said some rather unfortunate things. He said that Jews have usurped blacks' identity as the "true Hebrews" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites for what I think his context is). He got called out for this, and apologized, but it's not the first time he's gone anti-Semitic and this time Viacom fired his ass.

He also said a few things about white people:
When you have a person that has the lack of pigment, the lack of melanin, they know that they will be annihilated. So the people that don’t have [melanin] are—I’mma say this carefully—are a little less...They’re acting out of fear. They’re acting out of low self-esteem. They’re acting out of a deficiency. So, therefore, the only way they can act is evil.
And there was a hue and a cry from, well, not a lot of the mainstream media.

White privilege is when it's OK to attack white people for being white, right?
User avatar
BridgeConsoleMasher
Overlord
Posts: 11631
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:18 am

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by BridgeConsoleMasher »

Idunno both Ice Cube, and others as well as Nick Cannon are getting dragged for this I thought.

They canceled Nick Cannon's upcoming show, or stopped predevelopment on it or something. Ice Cube was a bit more pedestrian on the matter.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/07/viacom-fires-actor-nick-cannon-after-he-calls-black-people-the-true-hebrews-reports.html
..What mirror universe?
Dragon Ball Fan
Captain
Posts: 3160
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:40 pm

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by Dragon Ball Fan »

I think I keep commenting on news threads here because some part of me is worried I am in the wrong on these things but it doesn't seem like anyone is gonna convince me or vice versa either way because I ultimately come back to my individualistic worldview.
J!!
Captain
Posts: 869
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:52 pm

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by J!! »

Who is Nick Cannon, and why should I care about his opinions?
User avatar
BridgeConsoleMasher
Overlord
Posts: 11631
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:18 am

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by BridgeConsoleMasher »

J!! wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:32 pm Who is Nick Cannon, and why should I care about his opinions?
'Cause he's your daddy.
..What mirror universe?
Fuzzy Necromancer
Overlord
Posts: 6303
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:57 am

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by Fuzzy Necromancer »

Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:59 pm I think I keep commenting on news threads here because some part of me is worried I am in the wrong on these things but it doesn't seem like anyone is gonna convince me or vice versa either way because I ultimately come back to my individualistic worldview.
Yes and your worldview is the problem.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
Dragon Ball Fan
Captain
Posts: 3160
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:40 pm

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by Dragon Ball Fan »

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:40 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:59 pm I think I keep commenting on news threads here because some part of me is worried I am in the wrong on these things but it doesn't seem like anyone is gonna convince me or vice versa either way because I ultimately come back to my individualistic worldview.
Yes and your worldview is the problem.
and that's my problem, people like you don't care about the individual, only the whole, like the Borg.
G-Man
Officer
Posts: 484
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:59 am

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by G-Man »

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:27 pm Idunno both Ice Cube, and others as well as Nick Cannon are getting dragged for this I thought.

They canceled Nick Cannon's upcoming show, or stopped predevelopment on it or something. Ice Cube was a bit more pedestrian on the matter.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/07/viacom-fires-actor-nick-cannon-after-he-calls-black-people-the-true-hebrews-reports.html
They are getting dragged for the antisemitism, and Nick Cannon apologized. The anti-white statements, not so much.

You know, when you say "white people are animals and Jews have stolen the identity that belongs to blacks," and you get in trouble ONLY for the latter statement, it makes it hard to argue that white privilege is real and Jewish privilege is not (or that white Jews have a lesser level of white privilege than white Gentiles).
"You say I'm a dreamer/we're two of a kind/looking for some perfect world/we know we'll never find" - Thompson Twins
User avatar
BridgeConsoleMasher
Overlord
Posts: 11631
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:18 am

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by BridgeConsoleMasher »

G-Man wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:10 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:27 pm Idunno both Ice Cube, and others as well as Nick Cannon are getting dragged for this I thought.

They canceled Nick Cannon's upcoming show, or stopped predevelopment on it or something. Ice Cube was a bit more pedestrian on the matter.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/07/viacom-fires-actor-nick-cannon-after-he-calls-black-people-the-true-hebrews-reports.html
They are getting dragged for the antisemitism, and Nick Cannon apologized. The anti-white statements, not so much.

You know, when you say "white people are animals and Jews have stolen the identity that belongs to blacks," and you get in trouble ONLY for the latter statement, it makes it hard to argue that white privilege is real and Jewish privilege is not (or that white Jews have a lesser level of white privilege than white Gentiles).
I've tried now and again to pertain that white privilege isn't really supposed to say all that much. Not like how people make it out to be ironic every time a discrepancy happens. The amplitude white privilege you get online is mainly a reaction to people saying that everything is fixed and on a level playing field, which is recognized to be loserthink for many different subjects.

I'm really not sure what the big deal is about the statement. I think I get that "it's supposed to be a big deal" because it's a big deal when it happens the other way around, but the other way around is a pretty unrelated circumstance weighed completely differently. The best people ever cite is superficial contradictions, and it's an absolute undercutting of the historical arguments laid out in the dictation of critical race theory.
..What mirror universe?
Dragon Ball Fan
Captain
Posts: 3160
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:40 pm

Re: Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

Post by Dragon Ball Fan »

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:29 pm
G-Man wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:10 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:27 pm Idunno both Ice Cube, and others as well as Nick Cannon are getting dragged for this I thought.

They canceled Nick Cannon's upcoming show, or stopped predevelopment on it or something. Ice Cube was a bit more pedestrian on the matter.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/07/viacom-fires-actor-nick-cannon-after-he-calls-black-people-the-true-hebrews-reports.html
They are getting dragged for the antisemitism, and Nick Cannon apologized. The anti-white statements, not so much.

You know, when you say "white people are animals and Jews have stolen the identity that belongs to blacks," and you get in trouble ONLY for the latter statement, it makes it hard to argue that white privilege is real and Jewish privilege is not (or that white Jews have a lesser level of white privilege than white Gentiles).
I've tried now and again to pertain that white privilege isn't really supposed to say all that much. Not like how people make it out to be ironic every time a discrepancy happens. The amplitude white privilege you get online is mainly a reaction to people saying that everything is fixed and on a level playing field, which is recognized to be loserthink for many different subjects.

I'm really not sure what the big deal is about the statement. I think I get that "it's supposed to be a big deal" because it's a big deal when it happens the other way around, but the other way around is a pretty unrelated circumstance weighed completely differently. The best people ever cite is superficial contradictions, and it's an absolute undercutting of the historical arguments laid out in the dictation of critical race theory.
why is racism against whites different from racism against blacks? how can they be treated equally if it's always insisted their they be treated differently?
Post Reply