Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:16 pmor perhaps I don't care about it more and what I meant to say is that a black person who has a good relation with cops is just as valid an expereince on an individual level then the bad relations with the police.
Correct. I don't think many people argue that it's an ubiquitous condition. Remember that the movement overall is directly a response to the frequency of force by police leading to unnecessarily terminal outcomes for individuals in a minority class.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:26 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:16 pmor perhaps I don't care about it more and what I meant to say is that a black person who has a good relation with cops is just as valid an expereince on an individual level then the bad relations with the police.
Correct. I don't think many people argue that it's an ubiquitous condition. Remember that the movement overall is directly a response to the frequency of force by police leading to unnecessarily terminal outcomes for individuals in a minority class.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
I just wish most people on social media used the empathetic approach instead of cultivating hatred to anything and anyone they deem as oppressive.

again, really, all I am opposed to is the language like "All Cops are Bastards", I don't like generalizations like that. I know it's a minor thing but it's still important.
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also, I think this is the best way I can clarify this now, I want to be more concerned about the problems in the country but individualism is such a core part of my moral compass that I don't think I can stop trying to, at least to a degree, defend cops and whites as individuals.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 pm also, I think this is the best way I can clarify this now, I want to be more concerned about the problems in the country but individualism is such a core part of my moral compass that I don't think I can stop trying to, at least to a degree, defend cops and whites as individuals.
Well yeah on social media it plays out like that, but what does that have to do with IRL?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:53 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 pm also, I think this is the best way I can clarify this now, I want to be more concerned about the problems in the country but individualism is such a core part of my moral compass that I don't think I can stop trying to, at least to a degree, defend cops and whites as individuals.
Well yeah on social media it plays out like that, but what does that have to do with IRL?
it's social media I'm more concerned about, even if anti-white/all cops are bastards sentiment won't amount to much, I really don't want it to potentially be normalized.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:53 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 pm also, I think this is the best way I can clarify this now, I want to be more concerned about the problems in the country but individualism is such a core part of my moral compass that I don't think I can stop trying to, at least to a degree, defend cops and whites as individuals.
Well yeah on social media it plays out like that, but what does that have to do with IRL?
it's social media I'm more concerned about, even if anti-white/all cops are bastards sentiment won't amount to much, I really don't want it to potentially be normalized.
Good luck in that I guess. Have you been doing this kind of outreach for a long time or is it a new development?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:52 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:53 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 pm also, I think this is the best way I can clarify this now, I want to be more concerned about the problems in the country but individualism is such a core part of my moral compass that I don't think I can stop trying to, at least to a degree, defend cops and whites as individuals.
Well yeah on social media it plays out like that, but what does that have to do with IRL?
it's social media I'm more concerned about, even if anti-white/all cops are bastards sentiment won't amount to much, I really don't want it to potentially be normalized.
Good luck in that I guess. Have you been doing this kind of outreach for a long time or is it a new development?
new development but I really just want to get my two cents on the issue out there and let anyone who listens take it from there.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:53 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 pm also, I think this is the best way I can clarify this now, I want to be more concerned about the problems in the country but individualism is such a core part of my moral compass that I don't think I can stop trying to, at least to a degree, defend cops and whites as individuals.
Well yeah on social media it plays out like that, but what does that have to do with IRL?
it's social media I'm more concerned about, even if anti-white/all cops are bastards sentiment won't amount to much, I really don't want it to potentially be normalized.
Well, while you go on whining about people being mean to your dear uncle by not saying "cops are murderers and corrupt, except for this dude's uncle, because his mommy says so", some people are going to actually address white supremacy and institutional violence that kills real people because they care about human lives more than bizzaro-world thought experiments.

The reason you don't know a lot about specific cases that you hemm and haw over is you actively choose not to learn. You turn your nose up at sources, you ignore statistics, and you think as long as you treat people equally by your standards, that relieves you of any obligation to learn, or grow, or change, or become a better person in your miserable little life, because according to you since you don't set fire to kittens or rape children you're a fundamentally "good" person and incapable of ever being evil.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:26 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:53 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 pm also, I think this is the best way I can clarify this now, I want to be more concerned about the problems in the country but individualism is such a core part of my moral compass that I don't think I can stop trying to, at least to a degree, defend cops and whites as individuals.
Well yeah on social media it plays out like that, but what does that have to do with IRL?
it's social media I'm more concerned about, even if anti-white/all cops are bastards sentiment won't amount to much, I really don't want it to potentially be normalized.
Well, while you go on whining about people being mean to your dear uncle by not saying "cops are murderers and corrupt, except for this dude's uncle, because his mommy says so", some people are going to actually address white supremacy and institutional violence that kills real people because they care about human lives more than bizzaro-world thought experiments.

The reason you don't know a lot about specific cases that you hemm and haw over is you actively choose not to learn. You turn your nose up at sources, you ignore statistics, and you think as long as you treat people equally by your standards, that relieves you of any obligation to learn, or grow, or change, or become a better person in your miserable little life, because according to you since you don't set fire to kittens or rape children you're a fundamentally "good" person and incapable of ever being evil.
if you consider Oscar Shindler, not even all Nazis were bastards, so why are all cops?

but this is about white people in general too.

also, are you saying my uncle isn't a real person with real feelings?
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:00 pm If you consider Oscar Shindler, not even all Nazis were bastards, so why are all cops?

but this is about white people in general too.

also, are you saying my uncle isn't a real person with real feelings?
What makes you think Oskar Schindler wouldn't be the first to say that all Nazis are/were/will be bastards?
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