Jurassic Park film

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

but nedry is gone with over a mill and living a new life in some other country.

And able to fulfill his life long dream of becoming a postal worker...

That's like in Seinfeld.

[chaos42]

plus the parks no where near operational yet. they are still working out system issues meaning that there is loads of time before it opens and loads of chances for him to steal them as since hes the one fixing the computer system he can just say there are still some bugs till hes ready to strike and he can refine the plan more.

though i find it odd that there isn't more redundant power sources, like the raptor cage they are the most dangerous it would probably have been smart if they had like a back up generator for the raptor cages since they have actually killed someone

[Meushell]

He’s basically right because the script says he’s right. This is especially true in JP2. At least that’s how it always felt to me. As for Jeff Goldblum... While I don’t have much of an opinion on him, I do wonder if another actor could have made Ian more tolerable. Ian always comes off as an arrogant prick when he’s declaring his theories or making his arguments.

But that's the point, he'sa bit of a prick and that's part of his charm for folks.

My problem is and has always been that he's a dinosaur hating jackass who never gives consideration to them. They didn't ask for ANY of this. They were created to be theme park attractions, products, their purpose is to entertain. They aren't allowed to be animals, to be free, only caged and used for leisure at best, weapons at worst. They are a species born without inherent right to dignity and life. They are victims in this too.

And all Ian Malcolm can see are a bunch of monsters that need to be exterminated so "God" essentially can be satisfied. He takes no consideration that they are a lifeform created by man and we are responsible for them. So when he came back in Fallen Kingdom to advocate for their destruction, it was in his character... but it only confirmed to me why I hated him.

And yes, it's obvious enough, my sympathies lie with the dinosaurs. I agree with letting them go in Fallen Kingdom. If that upsets you, feel free to disagree with me. My main crux right here is that Ian Malcolm has advocated for shrugging responsibility over the welfare of creatures mankind has unfairly exploited... by murdering them. Either through direct or indirect action.

If the new Jurassic World movies have done anything right it is finally giving the dinosaurs the recognition they deserve as living creatures and not just mindless killer science experiments run amok.

That’s all precisely why I don’t find him charming. I’m obviously in the minority, but personally, in Jurassic World 3, I wouldn’t mind seeing him eaten. It won’t happen, but I can dream.

[clearspira]

I saw an interesting documentary once that claimed that a large chunk of the dinosaurs were doomed even without the asteroid. Apparently due to climate change, the MASSIVE amount of calories a T-Rex or a Brontosaurus would require was getting harder and harder to come by. You'll note that the modern world really does favour smaller creatures over larger ones, with a few exceptions such as the elephant (which i am fairly certain is still quite small in comparison to a T-Rex).

I guess the question then becomes, did mammalian life grow to become so dominant because of, or in spite of, the asteroid? Because if the dinosaurs lived long enough to meet either A) the ice age and B) humans, i'm not sure if there would be too many left today. We as a species have proven ourselves to be very, VERY good at killing anything that moves even when armed with nothing more than pointy sticks.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I guess the question then becomes, did mammalian life grow to become so dominant because of, or in spite of, the asteroid? Because if the dinosaurs lived long enough to meet either A) the ice age and B) humans, i'm not sure if there would be too many left today. We as a species have proven ourselves to be very, VERY good at killing anything that moves even when armed with nothing more than pointy sticks.

Interesting question but it's difficult to find out because people weren't around back then. Incredible we refer to written text getting strikingly close to our origins, but we can't rely on that method for matters predating our history.

[Link8909]

So now because of the premise to A Billionaire Dinosaur Forced Me Gay, I now have this mental image of a real T-Rex wearing a suit and tie, with little glasses on it's snout and typing furiously on a keyboard with it's stubby arms in front of a computer.

Also while I didn't know such a thing existed, now that I do I'm not surprised.

[JL_Stinger]

I agree with Malcolm on the subject of cloning dinosaurs vs cloning something like condors. I wouldn't necessarily frame it as "nature selected them for the extinction." More accurately: random events selected them for extinction, rather than our own malevolence and/or carelessness.

You probably didn't intend to frame it as such, but you ascribe an intent to random events. There is none. It just happened and, due to the short amount of time and lack of secondary means (no spaceships, no bunker-building), dinosaurs and many, a great many other species could not adapt to the new living conditions and consequentially died out. There is no one to blame, there is no intend, it just happened.

It doesn't matter that we're "more part of the Earth's system" than a space rock. Bad luck is unavoidable, but incompetance is unacceptable.

What incompetence?

Random events and species sometimes failing to adapt are the natural order of things.

Humans causing the extinction of other species is not the natural order of things. It is the result of our own incompetent carelessness (failing to accurately predict the consequences of our actions) or malevolence (deliberately causing extinction). The Earth would be better off if humans didn't exist.

[Madner Kami]

I bet the same was said about the first photosynthetic organisms, right before or during the start of the Great Oxygenation Event.

You do realize, that humans are natural beings, right? It just so happens, that we are the first ones who are concious of what we do and thus, we are the only and first organism, that can actually decide about what they do and don't, right? If this planet has one thing going for it, then it is humans. We are unique. Possibly so unique, that there is no second species like us in at least this galaxy.

[Beastro]

After getting to the homosexual dino erotica part the end bit about the dino being a billionaire standing out as odd for Chuck I have to say that it isn't quite so odd.

Its not gay erotica, but the 5 main professions of the desired male in female erotica are: Vampire, werewolf, pirate, doctor and billionaire.

All have aspects of agression dominance and/or threat intrinsic to them, so its no surprise to see that that might be the say way for gay men.... it would be interesting to contrast that with the erotica most lesbians prefer.

I guess the question then becomes, did mammalian life grow to become so dominant because of, or in spite of, the asteroid? Because if the dinosaurs lived long enough to meet either A) the ice age and B) humans, i'm not sure if there would be too many left today. We as a species have proven ourselves to be very, VERY good at killing anything that moves even when armed with nothing more than pointy sticks.

Stereotypical caveman movies run on one assumption all wildlife do in movies: if a human is seen it's attacked, even by herbivores.

Put people in a world with dinoaurs doing their own thing and the only real difference compared to what we faced with big cats over thousands of years is the shape and size of the threat.

The real threat to people would be how nasty and ruthless the smaller stuff would be. Not just infectious life but things like insects.

[Beastro]

You do realize, that humans are natural beings, right? It just so happens, that we are the first ones who are concious of what we do and thus, we are the only and first organism, that can actually decide about what they do and don't, right? If this planet has one thing going for it, then it is humans. We are unique. Possibly so unique, that there is no second species like us in at least this galaxy.

I've long thought a neat idea for a story would be people questing to find some stereotypical First One Ancients everyone is in awe of only for it to be revealed the story is billions of years in the future and it's revealed that Mankind is in B5 Lorien's species position of being the first intelligent life to emerge in the universe.

The only issue would be the omission of human beings tipping the stories hand. Probably better as a short story.