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Rocketboy1313 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:43 pm
I find the designation of "The Left" stupid in general.
It is a massive umbrella term that lumps together vastly different movements, and somehow they all want to destroy the nebulous concept of "Freedom" which is defined as...?
And most of them despise each other. Communists hate Anarchists, Anarchists spit on Communists, and both of them have a contempt for Liberals that goes beyond words.
Here is a favorite joke of mine,
Socialist: What a crime, so much of the world's money is controlled by only a handful of old white men!
Liberal: I know, half of them should be women or people of color!
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I post snarky commentary because there I have so little power and need to keep sane. Our governers, mayors, and members of congress have no such excuse.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:57 am
I post snarky commentary because there I have so little power and need to keep sane. Our governers, mayors, and members of congress have no such excuse.
It's funny how much right wingers talked about how they weren't fascists, and the president wasn't fascist, and now they make excuses for secret police who drag innocent people into unmarked white vans for being in the vicinity of anti-government protestors. And don't have badges or any other visible identification. And there's a huge overlap between these people and the ones who claim that wearing masks to slow the spread of a horrifying disease is Tyranny.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:56 am
It's funny how much right wingers talked about how they weren't fascists, and the president wasn't fascist, and now they make excuses for secret police who drag innocent people into unmarked white vans for being in the vicinity of anti-government protestors. And don't have badges or any other visible identification. And there's a huge overlap between these people and the ones who claim that wearing masks to slow the spread of a horrifying disease is Tyranny.
So, you admit there are anti-government protesters. It isn't just BLM antifa sunshine and rainbows.
When you realize that those people are also/helping anti-government protesters, and those anti-government protesters are using incendiary devices and rudimentary home made explosives, you'll understand why the anti-mask people don't give a crap.
not wearing a mask isn't/shouldn't be a crime. attempting/providing cover for others setting a courthouse on fire is.
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:56 am
It's funny how much right wingers talked about how they weren't fascists, and the president wasn't fascist, and now they make excuses for secret police who drag innocent people into unmarked white vans for being in the vicinity of anti-government protestors. And don't have badges or any other visible identification. And there's a huge overlap between these people and the ones who claim that wearing masks to slow the spread of a horrifying disease is Tyranny.
So, you admit there are anti-government protesters. It isn't just BLM antifa sunshine and rainbows.
When you realize that those people are also/helping anti-government protesters, and those anti-government protesters are using incendiary devices and rudimentary home made explosives, you'll understand why the anti-mask people don't give a crap.
not wearing a mask isn't/shouldn't be a crime. attempting/providing cover for others setting a courthouse on fire is.
Of course there are anti-government protesters: the protests are against systemic racism and it's increasingly-worsening symptoms. That 'system' IS the US Government (alongside State & Municplal governments and their various law enforcement agencies).
The idiots fire-bombing places (either misguidedly thinkings they're helping or simply using the chaos for Fun and/or Profit) are an unfortunate extension of that.
And the Fascists also consider anyone protesting the current government in power dangerous terrorists rather than people exercising 1st amendment rights to voice political dissent.
Man, I miss subtlety.
All of this violent force in unmarked white vans with no badge numbers grabbing people of the street for...*checks notes* protesting and vandalism. Because spray-painting a wang or Fuck Trump on a wall is violence, but disappearing people isn't.
GreyIce is right. The right wingers attack instead of defending because they know their position is indefensible.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
