VOY - Collective

[drewder]

You'd think Spock could get Voyager back pretty easy if he just used the spore drive.

You'd think the specs would be in the computer but they act like they'd never heard of a spore drive.

[Thebestoftherest]

You'd think Spock could get Voyager back pretty easy if he just used the spore drive.

You'd think the specs would be in the computer but they act like they'd never heard of a spore drive.

It almost like the spore drive is a retcon made by people who didn't want to bother with continuity even if they chose a prequel.

[Link8909]

hay is anyone else wondering what happend to the borg baby?

Brannon Braga said that they gave it away to the species it belonged to between episodes.

https://www.trektoday.com/news/191000_04.shtml

Question: Whatever happened to the Borg baby?

Mary Wiecek - Columbus, Ohio - USA

Answer:The Borg baby was prepared in a delicious orange glaze sauce by Neelix. Just kidding. The baby was returned to its people, which you did not see depicted in an episode. We considered showing it onscreen, but decided it would be best to focus on the remaining Borg kids. They have given us some great story material so far.

The fact that fans had to ask shows a problem with his apathy about such things when writing the characters.

The fact that even in jest anything produced by Neelix could be described as "delicious" says even more!

HaHaHa! thanks guys,yeah braga's apathy gets me too it would have been interesting to see how the Doctor treats a patient so young, especially if they do a "treating a small child with multiple disabilities plot".

That would have been great, I'd rather have had them keep the Borg baby than the other 3 kids, like you said it opens up some really interesting stories, heck, I'm surprised they didn't tell a "treating a small child with multiple disabilities plot" with the other kids.

In fact, Voyager giving away the baby raises more questions, was this an assimilated baby and they found her original homeworld? was her planet still there? how long did it take to find? were her parents or other family members still there or did they give her up for adoption? or was this a Borg grown baby and they did just drop her off on the next planet? and even with both outcomes, how did they react to seeing either the return of their child or the sight of a Borgified baby? did Voyager remove the implants and if not would the implants cause problems when the baby grows up? how will she grow up? will she be bullied over being part Borg?

The fact that Brannon Braga said they didn't want to focus on the baby and instead on the other children because they "given us some great story material" is hilarious, not only was there more material with keeping the baby or even just focusing on her, but by the next Season they drop off the rest of the children, given a grand total of 3/4 episodes with or about them.

[Freeverse]

You'd think Spock could get Voyager back pretty easy if he just used the spore drive.

You'd think the specs would be in the computer but they act like they'd never heard of a spore drive.

It almost like the spore drive is a retcon made by people who didn't want to bother with continuity even if they chose a prequel.

I mean, the writers didn't get to make that choice. It was made before they were hired. Also, everything in a prequel is a retcon. Like... that's how prequels work.

[Aotrs Commander]

That last skit was pure, unadulterated gold.

I could hear Torres' intelligence being burned away at every sentence...!

[drewder]

You'd think Spock could get Voyager back pretty easy if he just used the spore drive.

You'd think the specs would be in the computer but they act like they'd never heard of a spore drive.

It almost like the spore drive is a retcon made by people who didn't want to bother with continuity even if they chose a prequel.

I mean, the writers didn't get to make that choice. It was made before they were hired. Also, everything in a prequel is a retcon. Like... that's how prequels work.

No it isn't. It tells you the parts of the story that happened before the story started. If you learn why anakin fell to the dark side that's a prequel if you learn how he saved the republic from falling by killing the emperor during the battle for naboo that's a retcon.

[GreyICE]

You'd think Spock could get Voyager back pretty easy if he just used the spore drive.

You'd think the specs would be in the computer but they act like they'd never heard of a spore drive.

In fairness, this is hardly unique to Discovery. They invented an infinity speed space drive in Voyager that, at the very least, had literally zero effect on the equipment or machinery. Yet they never used it to send supplies back and forth with starfleet, or do anything else an automated shuttle with an infinity speed drive could do. Seeing as how infinity fast is very fast, you could do all sorts of things with that - automated mapping of the galaxy, automated mapping of other galaxies, etc. Every single episode about bringing medicine or supplies to someone, just send an automated infinity speed spaceship there, etc. etc.

At least the spore drive requires you to specially breed spores, which were probably all lost, and controlling it requires splicing alien DNA onto your DNA when they lost both the source of the alien DNA and the procedure. And it possibly puts you in an alternate universe and was potentially destroying the entire multiverse. The infinity speed threshold drive just requires you to have an automated ship.

Actually there's a whole bunch of procedures they do that they can't figure out how to do later. In TNG they had perfect deborgification, in Voyager they couldn't manage it. They can reconstruct people out of transporter pattern buffers after they die, or even clone people that way, but they can't ever seem to do it when it matters. And hell at one point DS9 uses the transporter as a time machine, no one ever pulls that trick again. Don't blame Discovery, this is a franchise staple. Just as warp drives move at the speed of plot, technology advances at the speed of plot.

[CharlesPhipps]

He died as he lived: as a naritive tool to facilitate 7's character development.

A rare male fridging. Congratulations, 7 for hitting the big leagues.

[pilight]

They invented an infinity speed space drive in Voyager that, at the very least, had literally zero effect on the equipment or machinery. Yet they never used it to send supplies back and forth with starfleet, or do anything else an automated shuttle with an infinity speed drive could do.

They never figured out how to control where it comes out of transwarp. Speed isn't that helpful when you can't control where you're going.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I really don't see the big deal about fridging.