45 is the entire Republican Platform now

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Not hyperbole
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/RESOLUTION_REGARDING_THE_REPUBLICAN_PARTY_PLATFORM.pdf?_ga=2.109560193.504857691.1598219603-2087748323.1598219603

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I'm thinking maybe they notice that division on the right is compromising. We have a slew of Republicans supporting Biden/Harris, and now they're latching on to the alt right lol.

[CharlesPhipps]

I feel like someone has instilled into their heads that doubling down is the only way to respond to any mistake.

And now they can't admit Trump was a huge one.

[Draco Dracul]

I feel like someone has instilled into their heads that doubling down is the only way to respond to any mistake.

And now they can't admit Trump was a huge one.

That's been the MO of the GOP for decades. I mean it's telling that the report from 2012 said they needed to court immigrant communities and especially Latinos in order to say viable long term and instead they set up concentration camps.

[CharlesPhipps]

That's been the MO of the GOP for decades. I mean it's telling that the report from 2012 said they needed to court immigrant communities and especially Latinos in order to say viable long term and instead they set up concentration camps.

Yeah, that was never going to happen because the deep seething racism was the motivation for a lot of them.

Obama's election struck at the core of a lot of them that, "Oh my God. Some people actually want equal rights for minorities."

[clearspira]

I feel like someone has instilled into their heads that doubling down is the only way to respond to any mistake.

And now they can't admit Trump was a huge one.

Will it still be a mistake if he wins?

[TGLS]

I feel like someone has instilled into their heads that doubling down is the only way to respond to any mistake.

And now they can't admit Trump was a huge one.

Will it still be a mistake if he wins?

Only if they win 2032.

[GreyICE]

I feel like someone has instilled into their heads that doubling down is the only way to respond to any mistake.

And now they can't admit Trump was a huge one.

Will it still be a mistake if he wins?

Under what context? In terms of what's best for the average citizen's health and well being? Fuck yes. In terms of what's best for the GOP long term? Fuck yes. In terms of what's best for America's foreign policy? Fuck yes. In terms of what's best for a handful of rich billionaires who are making a fortune off this shit? Yeah, they'd call not electing Trump a mistake.

Is there anyway you can look around you at the people in America in 2020, today, and go "yeah, they're better off than they were in 2016?" Is there any way in the world our trajectory looks upwards from here under "business as Trump-usual?"'

If the answer to those in "no" then yes, Trump was a fucking mistake.

[McAvoy]

I feel like someone has instilled into their heads that doubling down is the only way to respond to any mistake.

And now they can't admit Trump was a huge one.

Will it still be a mistake if he wins?

Under what context? In terms of what's best for the average citizen's health and well being? Fuck yes. In terms of what's best for the GOP long term? Fuck yes. In terms of what's best for America's foreign policy? Fuck yes. In terms of what's best for a handful of rich billionaires who are making a fortune off this shit? Yeah, they'd call not electing Trump a mistake.

Is there anyway you can look around you at the people in America in 2020, today, and go "yeah, they're better off than they were in 2016?" Is there any way in the world our trajectory looks upwards from here under "business as Trump-usual?"'

If the answer to those in "no" then yes, Trump was a fucking mistake.

That last part. Is anyone better off now or even before Covid happened then 2016? Or was it business as usual?

His constant claim that he made the greatest economy in history. He was sitting on an economy that statistically was going up since Obama. He just didn't do anything that made it go down. So good for him, he didn't fuck with the economy.

[TGLS]

That last part. Is anyone better off now or even before Covid happened then 2016? Or was it business as usual?

His constant claim that he made the greatest economy in history. He was sitting on an economy that statistically was going up since Obama. He just didn't do anything that made it go down. So good for him, he didn't fuck with the economy.

Yeah well, I think your going to have a very hard time finding a president who single-handedly destroyed the economy in one term. On the other hand, the list of presidents who lost elections because the economy sucked is relatively long.

Moral: Presidents get blame and credit for results, not whether or not they're responsible.