Cops shot a man in the back 7 times in Wisconsin

[Darth Wedgius]

It's not that they were trying to subdue an active shooter, it's that they were trying to "get him." If they'd been planning to turn him into the police after apprehending him, that would be one thing. But if I were him I wouldn't trust a leftist mob to do that after one beat up a man who was just trying to protect a trans-woman, or beat up an elderly man who was trying to defend a store using a fire extinguisher.

As far as Grey's other argument...ish..ness. It's true that you mostly can't protect property using deadly force. But you can protect property, and you can be armed while doing so.

If he'd shot someone for trying to torch a building, that would be unjustified. But if he was trying to protect property and then started being attacked, he can shoot someone.

it appears that the latter is what happened. The first shooting seems to be 100% justified. One terrorist + a headshot making for one good terrorist.

The second group of people were chasing someone they may have thought was a cold-blooded murderer. However, he has no reason to trust them, and it appears the first shooting as self-defense. That makes the second and third shootings self-defense as well.

A friend of the third shootee, the one who had a gun, said that his only regret wasn't emptying his entire magazine into Kyle.

This man has a law degree (not necessarily for Wisconsin) and explains the situation in better detail than I do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSU9ZvnudFE

Oh, and I think I'm supposed to hate him for being black.

As to GreyICE's other other argument, that Kyle was playing Rambo, well, speaking as someone who liked to be a little logical, I'd say that which is asserted without evidence can be rejected without evidence.

Also, Kyle brought a medkit. That doesn't mean he wanted to play doctor.

[Darth Wedgius]

White supremacists cheerleading the death of black people and trying to start a race war has been this country's history since Birth of Nation, and probably longer. Charles Manson is notorious, but somehow it's kind of slid that the entire reason for the Manson murders is he was trying to pin them on black people and start a race war, because he was a white supremacist.

I'll not defend white supremacists, but I'm seeing people attacked for being white men. I've seen demands for discrimination against whites, asians, and men. And I've seen all this come from the left.

[Darth Wedgius]

As far as the original shooting, it appears that the shootee was armed, that police tried to restrain him physically, that they tried to taze him twice, and that a lot of people who knew him were screaming at him to stop.

But I imagine this will go in with the rest of the lies leftists like to repeat. "Very fine people." "Hands up! Don't shoot!" "Trump called all Mexicans rapists!"

Facts and much of the left are like oil and water these days.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Well well well, the circus has come to town.

[G-Man]

No, you just looked in a mirror.

Well well well, the circus has come to town.

[G-Man]

Here is the New York Times report on the incident:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

The first shooting may or may not have been justified, but it does not appear that Rittenhouse was attacking people without cause.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I would like to engage with this in good faith but I've used up my free NYT articles for the month.

[GreyICE]

Well well well, the circus has come to town.

Aye. The white supremacist appears to be trying not to quote me, because I made fun of how much he thinks about me.

Too bad he's a clown.

[Antiboyscout]

Well well well, the circus has come to town.

Aye. The white supremacist appears to be trying not to quote me, because I made fun of how much he thinks about me.

Too bad he's a clown.

You can't accuse others of having you stuck in their head when here you are snickering to your fellow comrade about that racist you totally owned and how his not responding or quoting you is just proof of how in his head you really are.

I mean, you're not supposed to, but you're a lefty, so hypocrisy appears to come with the position.

[G-Man]

Another problem on the Jacob Blake front that no one seems to be bringing up.

The incident that brought the police into the situation was Blake's ex-girlfriend and the mother of 3 of his children, who accused him of trying to take her car without permission (I say "take without permission" rather than "steal" because apparently she would sometimes let him borrow the car).

The question to be asked is were the 3 children in the car that ex-girlfriend's children? Did Blake have any custodial rights regarding the children and was he allowed to take them with him at that time?

In other words, if the police had let him go, was there the possibility that he would have driven off with those kids and that it would have been custodial interference/kidnapping? I mean, if he were in a dispute with the mother of his children, and then he takes the kids, that leaves all sorts of nasty things that could happen. (Remember, he had an arrest warrant for sexual assault against his girlfriend, so the idea that he might abuse his children is not far-fetched).

Yes, he might have had totally benign intentions, like taking the kids on a trip. But lots of domestic disputes start that way.

The point is, at the point the cops shot him, they had tried to arrest him peacefully, and using non-lethal means. At this point, it is quite likely that the choice could be shoot him or let him drive away with the kids. And the latter is not a reasonable choice, given the situation.