Cops shot a man in the back 7 times in Wisconsin

[G-Man]

Here is an additional perspective on the Rittenhouse situation:

https://twitter.com/CatesDuane/status/1299857049346543617

[GreyICE]

You can't accuse others of having you stuck in their head when here you are snickering to your fellow comrade about that racist you totally owned and how his not responding or quoting you is just proof of how in his head you really are.

I mean, you're not supposed to, but you're a lefty, so hypocrisy appears to come with the position.

Maybe next time read the deranged rant before you dive in to defend it, ABS. Because woo boy is it a shitter. It starts off insane and goes downhill from there.

It's not that they were trying to subdue an active shooter, it's that they were trying to "get him" [after they saw him shoot someone]. If they'd been planning to turn him into the police after apprehending him, that would be one thing [and I know what they were planning because...]. But if I were him I wouldn't trust a leftist mob to do that after one beat up a man who was just trying to protect a trans-woman, or beat up an elderly man who was trying to defend a store using a fire extinguisher [oh I see, collective guilt].

As far as Grey's other argument...ish..ness. It's true that you mostly can't protect property using deadly force. But you can protect property, and you can be armed while doing so. If he'd shot someone for trying to torch a building, that would be unjustified. But if he was trying to protect property and then started being attacked, he can shoot someone.

Yes. But if you start a confrontation over it, you're wandering outside the realm of self-defense, because you're starting a confrontation with a deadly weapon. That's why any competent firearm instructor on the planet will tell you "don't do it." You're on very shaky legal territory, and much more importantly you could be initiating a deadly confrontation. Which is what you're supposed to be avoiding - the absolute best way to use your gun for self-defense is to never have to draw it.

I don't really have to explain why this is an argument you don't want to be engaging in in a court of law. Judges tend not to enjoy hair splitting like "I wasn't using deadly force to protect property, but instead I used deadly force while protecting property." It's a very fine line you're attempting to draw, and you have to very much trust the judge buys it, because on all sides of that fine line are murder two, or murder one if they decide that traveling to the city amounts to premeditation.

A friend of the third shootee, the one who had a gun, said that his only regret wasn't emptying his entire magazine into Kyle.

Kyle shot his friend. I'd be pissed if a dumbass shot my friend. I have a gun to prevent exactly that, and as I said based on what I'd seen, Kyle would have gotten one chance to put down the weapon, then I'd have dropped him - had I been stupid enough to head into that situation armed (which was Kyle's first and biggest mistake).


So yeah, ABS, the post is garbage. Why don't you tell me what you found so compelling about the clown's antics? In your own words, like a big boy.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Another problem on the Jacob Blake front that no one seems to be bringing up.

So I guess four bullets in his back would be insufficient to prevent child abduction?

[GreyICE]

Another problem on the Jacob Blake front that no one seems to be bringing up.

So I guess four bullets in his back would be insufficient to prevent child abduction?

Apparently. I guess that 4 cops can't think of any other way to stop him.

Anyway, our good friend Kyle Rittenhouse certainly deserves the "trawl through the history" treatment to see what sort of human he is. Ah, here's a video of him sucker punching a girl. Yes, that's truly the path of nonviolence right there. I feel like that really speaks to what sort of mindset he has about avoiding violent confrontation.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1299847372185403392



On the other side, hitting women without provocation shows he was very much on his way to being a cop, given their domestic violence statistics.

[Madner Kami]

Anyway, our good friend Kyle Rittenhouse certainly deserves the "trawl through the history" treatment to see what sort of human he is. Ah, here's a video of him sucker punching a girl. Yes, that's truly the path of nonviolence right there. I feel like that really speaks to what sort of mindset he has about avoiding violent confrontation.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1299847372185403392
https://i.imgur.com/cBApOb5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Aj5cWsX.jpg

On the other side, hitting women without provocation shows he was very much on his way to being a cop, given their domestic violence statistics.

Without provocation? So you know what the argument was about and what directly lead to him punching her, seeing and hearing through the cars passing in front of the camera, as well as being magically aware of what happened before this clip starts? Come on, there's enough one can say about that guy, so stop reaching.

[G-Man]

It's almost like this violent shithead could have been stopped and charged with a crime at a number of points. But instead they let him head out into the protests. Like the potential of him taking black lives with his criminal behavior... didn't matter.

Fortunately enough, none of the people he shot were black.

[Darth Wedgius]

Cops did try to stop him non-lethally. It didn't work. I wonder what kind of twisted mindset is required to be "right" in your own head regardless of actual facts.

(1) If you start a confrontation you're the aggressor. If you back down afterwards and the other person persists, you're no longer the aggressor. If Kyle had walked up to the guy and insulted him because he wanted to be a jerk, but then ran away and was pursued, Kyle regained a right to self-defense.

(2) It's hard to picture someone defending property (and offering medical aid) as the aggressor when others come to confront him. I suppose sometimes being liberal really is a mental disorder.

And being mad at someone doesn't make you right. If he was mad at somebody and wanted to empty a magazine into him, that just gives a label to the motive for his homicidal impulse. It doesn't remove that impulse.

This is really easy stuff. Even a lot of the authoritarian left can understand it.

Now, why was he shot seven times? Being shot stops someone instantly, every time -- sometimes. More typically, people can power through for a little while, even if wounded so badly that the shootee couldn't be saved even if he fell onto on a surgical table. And a little while is a long enough while to do some major damage. So when they decided to use lethal force, they used enough lethal force to stop him.

Now, Kyle shot someone in the head. That worked really well in this case, but heads are harder to hit. I'd give pretty good odds that it was a lucky shot, seeing as it was done quickly, while fleeing. And Kyle was using an AR-15, not a handgun, and there is a big difference.

Could they have shot to maim? Yes. Sort of. A bullet anywhere can kill you. And even if it kills you, it doesn't necessarily stop you quickly.

A lot of people are killed with .22s. That's a good round for killing, but not a good round for self-defense. It doesn't have a lot of "stopping power," where stopping is not[/i] a euphemism for killing.

[unknownsample]

If Kyle Rittenhouse had been black would a number of posters on here be so keen to excuse and defend his actions?. Of course he is portrayed as a victim because he's white.

[McAvoy]

If Kyle Rittenhouse had been black would a number of posters on here be so keen to excuse and defend his actions?. Of course he is portrayed as a victim because he's white.

If he was black with the same motivations, he probably would still be held up in high regard by anti BLM folks. If he was black and did that to the anti BLM camp he would be held up as an example of thug behavior of the BLM.

Same goes for him being white. If he was there for BLM and did that to anti BLM he would be held up as a n example of the rioters and protesters.

It doesn't surprise me that Kyle's behavior is being praised by the right because he is one of them.

[Dragon Ball Fan]

any now, I no longer have any beef with those like GrayICE but it seems like Fuzzy Newcomer does not care about the welfare of my officer family members or that cop who got a brick thrown at him and that is the only thing keeping me going on this topic.