SG-1: DIsclosure

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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:13 pm I think this was the first episode of "Stargate SG-1" I ever saw.

I know clip shows are looked down on by long term fans that keep up on things, but this definitely gave me so much information to jump into the series with I was able to appreciate everything moving forward.

Even all the earth political machinations struck me as super interesting.
SG-1's clip shows are examples of how to do them right. They move the overall plot forward while also catching up recent viewers on major continuity points, and sometimes even re-contextualizing them for established viewers. I don't think I've ever seen a show make better use of one.

In that bit where the Chinese representative fervently claims that his government doesn't believe in keeping secrets, I distinctly remember a brief reaction shot of the Russian colonel giving a little "wtf?" look but keeping quiet. Credit the show's writers with just letting that comment hang for a moment before continuing the conversation like it never happened.
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Huh. The ending of this episode really drives home the show's protagonist-centric morality.
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Yeah, I must admit...I can very much understand the diplomats not being happy about the whole 'Oh, turns out America's been violating the Outer Space Treaty and nearly got Earth destroyed on multiple occasions.' I'm kinda on their side on that one personally despite liking the SG-1 team.

Honestly, an international shift could have been fun for Stargate. Open it up to the endless non-american actors on the continent trying to land a role.

...also, just gunna put this out there: Egypt was not part of this meeting, despite the Stargate being taken from Egypt. That's a bit poor form Hammond.
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Ikiry0 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:09 pm ...also, just gunna put this out there: Egypt was not part of this meeting, despite the Stargate being taken from Egypt. That's a bit poor form Hammond.
A) Hammond sure as heck didn't get to pick who attended the meeting.

B) The USA ignoring Middle Eastern Countries when they dont want anything from them is probably the most realistic part about this meeting.

C) Can you imagine how awkward that meeting would've been "So yeah all those cultural accomplishments you guys think you did in the past? Aliens." "But we built the Pyramids!" "Nah, Alien landing sites..." Big problem with the ancient Astronaut thing is how it's inherently racist.

D) One can also point t Danemark, Norway and other Scandinavian countries not being there despite the guy who shaped their culture attending the meeting.
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Ghilz wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:24 pm
Ikiry0 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:09 pm ...also, just gunna put this out there: Egypt was not part of this meeting, despite the Stargate being taken from Egypt. That's a bit poor form Hammond.
A) Hammond sure as heck didn't get to pick who attended the meeting.

B) The USA ignoring Middle Eastern Countries when they dont want anything from them is probably the most realistic part about this meeting.

C) Can you imagine how awkward that meeting would've been "So yeah all those cultural accomplishments you guys think you did in the past? Aliens." "But we built the Pyramids!" "Nah, Alien landing sites..." Big problem with the ancient Astronaut thing is how it's inherently racist.

D) One can also point t Danemark, Norway and other Scandinavian countries not being there despite the guy who shaped their culture attending the meeting.
C) Yeah, that why I hate shows like ancient aliens.
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:38 pm
C) Yeah, that why I hate shows like ancient aliens.
While Ancient Aliens itself is terrible, the actual episode on pyramids itself is a gem. The best part is that the first "expert" we hear from is an architect, who comments basically "Yeah, if you've got limited understanding of architectural principles and want to build something really tall, a pyramid-shape is the obvious way to go."

They then proceed to spend the rest of the program loudly speculating to the audience "Why is it that so many cultures across the world decided to build pyramids?" without ever addressing the fact that the very first guy they talked to gave the obvious answer: because it's a ludicrously obvious choice by anyone who's ever stacked things.

I like to imagine that the episode was being cut together late at night, and they realized they were about 2 minutes short, so some editor just threw in a clip at the beginning that they weren't planning to use, and it ended up being that clip.
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I haven't seen every episode, so I'll ask: did Stargate ever reveal that Stonehenge was built by aliens?
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Fianna wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:42 pm I haven't seen every episode, so I'll ask: did Stargate ever reveal that Stonehenge was built by aliens?

No, but during the episode Seth, when Daniel's talking about Seth through the ages, he mentions a cult of Seth around Stonehenge (Though the place was already ancient by that point).
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Ghilz wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:13 pm
Fianna wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:42 pm I haven't seen every episode, so I'll ask: did Stargate ever reveal that Stonehenge was built by aliens?

No, but during the episode Seth, when Daniel's talking about Seth through the ages, he mentions a cult of Seth around Stonehenge (Though the place was already ancient by that point).
And the Ancients built Glastonbury Tor, from the Ninth season .
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Ghilz wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:24 pm
Ikiry0 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:09 pm ...also, just gunna put this out there: Egypt was not part of this meeting, despite the Stargate being taken from Egypt. That's a bit poor form Hammond.
A) Hammond sure as heck didn't get to pick who attended the meeting.

B) The USA ignoring Middle Eastern Countries when they dont want anything from them is probably the most realistic part about this meeting.

C) Can you imagine how awkward that meeting would've been "So yeah all those cultural accomplishments you guys think you did in the past? Aliens." "But we built the Pyramids!" "Nah, Alien landing sites..." Big problem with the ancient Astronaut thing is how it's inherently racist.


D) One can also point t Danemark, Norway and other Scandinavian countries not being there despite the guy who shaped their culture attending the meeting.
Yeah, I can see that definitely. However I was also under the impression that every polytheistic god was a Goa'uld given how we also have a Yu and a Nirti. I wonder what the Chinese government thought of old Yu when they learned that. Modern China is a weird place that is on the one hand modern enough to kick the ass of any other country barring perhaps America in the tech race, but where you will also find many who believe in prehistoric crap like powdered rhino horn giving you an erection. A good part of the ivory trade gets snorted right up their noses.
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