Conspiracy Theories and Pedophilia

[GreyICE]

Please stop.

MAP's operate openly on twitter. You're more likely to be banned for being a Trump supporter than a pedophile. That and the Cuties debacle show the pedo support movement is definitely real, and intellectually, it has the same root and arguments as the LGBT+. Makes sense, a lot of the founders of the LGBT+ movement were or defended pedophilia.

"It shouldn't matter what the gender is of consenting adults in a relationship"
"Raping kids is okay!"

One of these is the message of the LGBT movement, one is the message of the Catholic Church. Not hard to tell the difference.

[Antiboyscout]

Please stop.

MAP's operate openly on twitter. You're more likely to be banned for being a Trump supporter than a pedophile. That and the Cuties debacle show the pedo support movement is definitely real, and intellectually, it has the same root and arguments as the LGBT+. Makes sense, a lot of the founders of the LGBT+ movement were or defended pedophilia.

"It shouldn't matter what the gender is of consenting adults in a relationship"
"Raping kids is okay!"

One of these is the message of the LGBT movement, one is the message of the Catholic Church. Not hard to tell the difference.

John Money (one of the first researchers to publish theories on the influence of societal constructs of "gender" on individual formation of gender identity): "If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual ... then I would not call it pathological in any way."

Someone more recent:

[GreyICE]

Thank you ABS. It's nice to see the logic behind the QAnon cult - basic, simple homophobia. I guess once you assume there's some grand agenda that's somehow shaping the world, it becomes easy to think that there's a child sex ring in the basement of a restaurant that doesn't have a basement.

I do find it amazing that sort of craziness has crept up to the level that congresscritters are actually repeating it though. Random internet commentators are whatever, you expect the crazies, but now we have elected officials parroting this nonsense.

[Antiboyscout]

Thank you ABS. It's nice to see the logic behind the QAnon cult - basic, simple homophobia. I guess once you assume there's some grand agenda that's somehow shaping the world, it becomes easy to think that there's a child sex ring in the basement of a restaurant that doesn't have a basement.

I do find it amazing that sort of craziness has crept up to the level that congresscritters are actually repeating it though. Random internet commentators are whatever, you expect the crazies, but now we have elected officials parroting this nonsense.

This is the problem with pedophilia and the left. They refuse to call it out and call you a homophobe if you do. If, say a prepubescent boy is dressed in short shorts and is twerking in front of grown men at a pride parade or is dressed in drag and is pole dancing for tips at a gay bar, for some reason leftists can't just disavow and say it's wrong they have to deflect and claim you're only against this cuz you're actually a homophobe or a transphobe.

How on earth did you get that interpretation from by examples that show Anti-traditional, never say no, libertine ideologies would inevitably have to defend pedophilia to remain ideologically and intellectually consistent.

[GreyICE]

Thank you ABS. It's nice to see the logic behind the QAnon cult - basic, simple homophobia. I guess once you assume there's some grand agenda that's somehow shaping the world, it becomes easy to think that there's a child sex ring in the basement of a restaurant that doesn't have a basement.

I do find it amazing that sort of craziness has crept up to the level that congresscritters are actually repeating it though. Random internet commentators are whatever, you expect the crazies, but now we have elected officials parroting this nonsense.

This is the problem with pedophilia and the left. They refuse to call it out and call you a homophobe if you do. If, say a prepubescent boy is dressed in short shorts and is twerking in front of grown men at a pride parade or is dressed in drag and is pole dancing for tips at a gay bar, for some reason leftists can't just disavow and say it's wrong they have to deflect and claim you're only against this cuz you're actually a homophobe or a transphobe.

How on earth did you get that interpretation from by examples that show Anti-traditional, never say no, libertine ideologies would inevitably have to defend pedophilia to remain ideologically and intellectually consistent.

And this is how crazy people make arguments. If we actually parse the charges leveled against Comet Pizza - that the Democrats were using it as an underground pedophile ring with the secret pass phrase "cheese pizza" for the child sex parties in the basement that didn't exist - they don't hold up under any level of scrutiny.

• There is no evidence of children being sexually trafficked through Comet Pizza
• There's no evidence of some "democrat staffer child sex party", in fact they seemed to be eating... pizza
• There's no fucking basement. The children were supposedly held in the basement of a pizza place that doesn't have a basement.

Of course anyone who points out that the entire evidence for the existence of this "child sex ring" is that Democrats order cheese pizza from a pizza parlor is "defending pedophilia" which is "the agenda of the LGBT movement".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

In 2020, Pizzagate became a pillar of the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory and less U.S.-centric in nature, with videos and posts on the topic in Italy, Brazil, Turkey and other countries worldwide each gaining millions of views each.[12] This new iteration is less partisan; most of the (mostly teenage) promoters of the #PizzaGate hashtag on TikTok were not right-wing, and support the Black Lives Matter movement.[11] It focuses on an alleged global elite of child sex-traffickers, ranging from politicians to powerful businesspeople and celebrities such as Bill Gates, Ellen DeGeneres, Oprah Winfrey and Chrissy Teigen.[12] Justin Bieber's 2020 song Yummy was alleged to be about the conspiracy theory, and rekindled support for the theory that year. The conspiracy theory gained traction when Venezuelan YouTuber, Dross Rotzank, made a video about Bieber's music video and its alleged references to Pizzagate. Rotzank's video gained 3 million views in two days and led "Pizzagate" to become a trending topic on the Spanish-language Twitter.[94] Adherents of the theory also believe that Bieber gave a coded signal admitting as such in a later Instagram Live video, where he touched his beanie after being asked to do so in the chat if he was a victim of Pizzagate (however, there is no indication that Bieber saw this comment).[95]

In April, a documentary promoting Pizzagate, Out of Shadows, was made by a former Hollywood stuntman and released on YouTube. TikTok users began promoting both Out of the Shadows and the alleged Bieber association until the #PizzaGate hashtag was banned by the company.[12][11] The New York Times said in June 2020 that posts on the platform with the #PizzaGate hashtag were "viewed more than 82 million times in recent months", and Google searches for the term also increased in that time. They also note that "In the first week of June, comments, likes and shares of PizzaGate also spiked to more than 800,000 on Facebook and nearly 600,000 on Instagram, according to data from CrowdTangle ... That compares with 512,000 interactions on Facebook and 93,000 on Instagram during the first week of December 2016. From the start of 2017 through January of 2020, the average number of weekly PizzaGate mentions, likes and shares on Facebook and Instagram was under 20,000".[12]

In August 2020, Facebook temporarily suspended use of the "savethechildren" hashtag, when it was used to promote elements of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.[96]

[Antiboyscout]

Thank you ABS. It's nice to see the logic behind the QAnon cult - basic, simple homophobia. I guess once you assume there's some grand agenda that's somehow shaping the world, it becomes easy to think that there's a child sex ring in the basement of a restaurant that doesn't have a basement.

I do find it amazing that sort of craziness has crept up to the level that congresscritters are actually repeating it though. Random internet commentators are whatever, you expect the crazies, but now we have elected officials parroting this nonsense.

This is the problem with pedophilia and the left. They refuse to call it out and call you a homophobe if you do. If, say a prepubescent boy is dressed in short shorts and is twerking in front of grown men at a pride parade or is dressed in drag and is pole dancing for tips at a gay bar, for some reason leftists can't just disavow and say it's wrong they have to deflect and claim you're only against this cuz you're actually a homophobe or a transphobe.

How on earth did you get that interpretation from by examples that show Anti-traditional, never say no, libertine ideologies would inevitably have to defend pedophilia to remain ideologically and intellectually consistent.

And this is how crazy people make arguments. If we actually parse the charges leveled against Comet Pizza - that the Democrats were using it as an underground pedophile ring with the secret pass phrase "cheese pizza" for the child sex parties in the basement that didn't exist - they don't hold up under any level of scrutiny.

• There is no evidence of children being sexually trafficked through Comet Pizza
• There's no evidence of some "democrat staffer child sex party", in fact they seemed to be eating... pizza
• There's no fucking basement. The children were supposedly held in the basement of a pizza place that doesn't have a basement.

Of course anyone who points out that the entire evidence for the existence of this "child sex ring" is that Democrats order cheese pizza from a pizza parlor is "defending pedophilia" which is "the agenda of the LGBT movement".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

In 2020, Pizzagate became a pillar of the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory and less U.S.-centric in nature, with videos and posts on the topic in Italy, Brazil, Turkey and other countries worldwide each gaining millions of views each.[12] This new iteration is less partisan; most of the (mostly teenage) promoters of the #PizzaGate hashtag on TikTok were not right-wing, and support the Black Lives Matter movement.[11] It focuses on an alleged global elite of child sex-traffickers, ranging from politicians to powerful businesspeople and celebrities such as Bill Gates, Ellen DeGeneres, Oprah Winfrey and Chrissy Teigen.[12] Justin Bieber's 2020 song Yummy was alleged to be about the conspiracy theory, and rekindled support for the theory that year. The conspiracy theory gained traction when Venezuelan YouTuber, Dross Rotzank, made a video about Bieber's music video and its alleged references to Pizzagate. Rotzank's video gained 3 million views in two days and led "Pizzagate" to become a trending topic on the Spanish-language Twitter.[94] Adherents of the theory also believe that Bieber gave a coded signal admitting as such in a later Instagram Live video, where he touched his beanie after being asked to do so in the chat if he was a victim of Pizzagate (however, there is no indication that Bieber saw this comment).[95]

In April, a documentary promoting Pizzagate, Out of Shadows, was made by a former Hollywood stuntman and released on YouTube. TikTok users began promoting both Out of the Shadows and the alleged Bieber association until the #PizzaGate hashtag was banned by the company.[12][11] The New York Times said in June 2020 that posts on the platform with the #PizzaGate hashtag were "viewed more than 82 million times in recent months", and Google searches for the term also increased in that time. They also note that "In the first week of June, comments, likes and shares of PizzaGate also spiked to more than 800,000 on Facebook and nearly 600,000 on Instagram, according to data from CrowdTangle ... That compares with 512,000 interactions on Facebook and 93,000 on Instagram during the first week of December 2016. From the start of 2017 through January of 2020, the average number of weekly PizzaGate mentions, likes and shares on Facebook and Instagram was under 20,000".[12]

In August 2020, Facebook temporarily suspended use of the "savethechildren" hashtag, when it was used to promote elements of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.[96]

But there is a little boy being dressed in drag (likely by his parents) and dancing for tips in a strip joint, and people were called homophobes and transphobes for pointing out how wrong that is.

[Rocketboy1313]

The fact that pedophilia and "corrupting children" is then labeled on to LGBTQ+ activity and anyone who tries to point out the bigotry at work is then asked, "Oh, you don't think pedophilia is a problem?"

It is asinine.
Taking a stance against the exploitation of children is political tee ball.

Please stop.

MAP's operate openly on twitter. You're more likely to be banned for being a Trump supporter than a pedophile. That and the Cuties debacle show the pedo support movement is definitely real, and intellectually, it has the same root and arguments as the LGBT+. Makes sense, a lot of the founders of the LGBT+ movement were or defended pedophilia.

"Cuties" is a denouncement of the sexualization of children.
If people actually cared about the sexualization of children child beauty pagents would not be an industry or have multiple reality shows about them.
People don't care about the sexualizing of children, they dislike that "Cuties" calls out the industry for doing it.

Also, fucking YIKES about painting the LGBTQ+ community with the pedophile brush and illustrating my point.
This is just the sort of machismo that is toxic and used to demonize and discriminate against marginalized communities.
This is exactly the sort of thing that the conspiracy theories are encouraging and exploiting, "those deviants!"

Like I said, it is asinine.

[Antiboyscout]

The fact that pedophilia and "corrupting children" is then labeled on to LGBTQ+ activity and anyone who tries to point out the bigotry at work is then asked, "Oh, you don't think pedophilia is a problem?"

It is asinine.
Taking a stance against the exploitation of children is political tee ball.

Please stop.

MAP's operate openly on twitter. You're more likely to be banned for being a Trump supporter than a pedophile. That and the Cuties debacle show the pedo support movement is definitely real, and intellectually, it has the same root and arguments as the LGBT+. Makes sense, a lot of the founders of the LGBT+ movement were or defended pedophilia.

"Cuties" is a denouncement of the sexualization of children.
If people actually cared about the sexualization of children child beauty pagents would not be an industry or have multiple reality shows about them.
People don't care about the sexualizing of children, they dislike that "Cuties" calls out the industry for doing it.

Also, fucking YIKES about painting the LGBTQ+ community with the pedophile brush and illustrating my point.
This is just the sort of machismo that is toxic and used to demonize and discriminate against marginalized communities.
This is exactly the sort of thing that the conspiracy theories are encouraging and exploiting, "those deviants!"

Like I said, it is asinine.

I've heard of fighting fire with fire, but I'm not sure how you can fight the sexualization of children by sexualizing children on film, but I guess I'm just not woke enough.

[Rocketboy1313]

I've heard of fighting fire with fire, but I'm not sure how you can fight the sexualization of children by sexualizing children on film, but I guess I'm just not woke enough.

You know, like all those movies that say murder is great, like "Halloween", "Friday the 13th", "Silence of the Lambs"... see, portraying things in fiction to say something about them... is how fiction works.

[Antiboyscout]

I've heard of fighting fire with fire, but I'm not sure how you can fight the sexualization of children by sexualizing children on film, but I guess I'm just not woke enough.

You know, like all those movies that say murder is great, like "Halloween", "Friday the 13th", "Silence of the Lambs"... see, portraying things in fiction to say something about them... is how fiction works.

Nobody said those movies exist to teach people that murder is wrong. Unlike Cuties, where many people including yourself have said the point of the movie is not to entertain but to educate about the wrongness of child sexualization.

If this was a documentary and they kept the children's faces blurred you might have a point.