The New Scientist proclaims "Star Trek Renassiance"

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Link8909 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:05 pm I honestly don't try to fight people on their opinions, but I do say if I disagree and try to provide my own point of view, and I wouldn't insult someone for disagreeing.

The quote you have of me here is more about the people on YouTube, Twitter and Reddit, they take their hatred to an unhealthy level and try to drag everyone else into their negative mindset.
I'd say I don't try and fight...but I do love a good debate. The problem is many people don't wish to debate and only see things from their point of view. If you don't agree with them you are wrong and they will attack you and attempt to deny your freedom of speech.

And, yea, YouTube, Twitter and Reddit(and 4chan) are full of toxic people, but then so is the world. You meet them in real life too....but if your wise enough you meet them only for seconds and stay well far away from them. Of course, they are hard to avoid online as they can be anywhere....but you still don't have to read or listen to them....or even respond to them.

Someone types Michael is the best Star Trek character 4Ever! I will often reply on why I think the character is horrible. If they respond with crazyness, hate or such, I will often just drop it.
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Zargon wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:31 pm
Link8909 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:05 pm I honestly don't try to fight people on their opinions, but I do say if I disagree and try to provide my own point of view, and I wouldn't insult someone for disagreeing.

The quote you have of me here is more about the people on YouTube, Twitter and Reddit, they take their hatred to an unhealthy level and try to drag everyone else into their negative mindset.
I'd say I don't try and fight...but I do love a good debate. The problem is many people don't wish to debate and only see things from their point of view. If you don't agree with them you are wrong and they will attack you and attempt to deny your freedom of speech.

And, yea, YouTube, Twitter and Reddit(and 4chan) are full of toxic people, but then so is the world. You meet them in real life too....but if your wise enough you meet them only for seconds and stay well far away from them. Of course, they are hard to avoid online as they can be anywhere....but you still don't have to read or listen to them....or even respond to them.

Someone types Michael is the best Star Trek character 4Ever! I will often reply on why I think the character is horrible. If they respond with crazyness, hate or such, I will often just drop it.
Indeed, I've basically avoided typing Star Trek on YouTube to avoid those videos, and I don't even have a Twitter of Reddit or 4chan accounts so I'm thankfully blind to what goes on there, I mostly just Google News of Star Trek news and sometimes look at the Star Trek Online forums, and of course I do like to come here and talk about Star Trek and other things.
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Like for another example: Been posting about the new She Hulk show coming to Disney plus across the web.

It's shocking how many people are saying things like "Woke Disney turned the Hulk into a woman" and "why must Disney take male characters and turn them into women". You know from the people that are clueless that the character She Hulk was made in 1980 and written by Stan Lee, no less. And she has been a mainstay of the Marvel comics universe ever sense.
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Has it ever occured to anyone, that the most ridiculous statements or at least some of them are chat-bots designed to create controversy, which just create texts based on posts from people in the past?
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Zargon wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:44 am Like for another example: Been posting about the new She Hulk show coming to Disney plus across the web.

It's shocking how many people are saying things like "Woke Disney turned the Hulk into a woman" and "why must Disney take male characters and turn them into women". You know from the people that are clueless that the character She Hulk was made in 1980 and written by Stan Lee, no less. And she has been a mainstay of the Marvel comics universe ever sense.
Indeed, It's honestly incredibly ignorant how even with the internet at their disposal to find these things out that people can say stuff like this, and I've never like when people use those buzz words either, I find it says more about the person more than anything.

Also on a side note, I'm really looking forward to the She-Hulk series, with how the Hulk looks in the films, and with how WandaVision (which I'm also looking forward to and looks great) looks just as polished as the films, She-Hulk will look great, and I also hope it focuses on courtroom dramas.
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Madner Kami wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:26 am Has it ever occured to anyone, that the most ridiculous statements or at least some of them are chat-bots designed to create controversy, which just create texts based on posts from people in the past?
Are... you speaking in red-pill?
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Madner Kami wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:48 pm
Link8909 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:15 pmAnd I do agree with CharlesPhipps, if a series or film really upsets you, then don't expose yourself to it, [...]
People who are upset about the direction a franchise goes towards, are usually fans of said franchise in the first place. Dismissing their criticism in the way you do, is about as useful as the famed phrase often used against left-wingers in Western Germany: "If you don't like it here, then go to the other side of the border (Eastern Germany)!" I believe a similar phrase was coined in the US, along the lines of "You don't like capitalism? Why don't you emigrate to the USSR?". I hope you can see the problem there. I mean you could easily apply this flawed reasoning to pretty much anything anyone is unhappy with. Let's say: "You don't like "Birth of a Nation?" Well, why are you watching it?"

There is a difference between "Geh doch nach Drüben" and "I'mma bitch and moan about a show, that I definitely know, that I'm not liking".

Case one: there are some parts of the thing you want to change (for example: Better payment, equality) but like other things - for example that the FRG was no dictatorship, which the GDR definitely was. You like certain aspects of the thing, you criticise, you dislike the things, you want to criticise, but all in all, you like the thing more, than you hate it. You want to change a minute detail.



Case two: You hate the thing. You don't want to change anything, you just hate it - or at least it appears that way. There are so many things, you point out, that you hate, that one thinks: "Well, if you hate it that much, why are you spending your time and money on a thing you actively hate."
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CaptainCalvinCat wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:49 pm There is a difference between "Geh doch nach Drüben" and "I'mma bitch and moan about a show, that I definitely know, that I'm not liking".

Case one: there are some parts of the thing you want to change (for example: Better payment, equality) but like other things - for example that the FRG was no dictatorship, which the GDR definitely was. You like certain aspects of the thing, you criticise, you dislike the things, you want to criticise, but all in all, you like the thing more, than you hate it. You want to change a minute detail.



Case two: You hate the thing. You don't want to change anything, you just hate it - or at least it appears that way. There are so many things, you point out, that you hate, that one thinks: "Well, if you hate it that much, why are you spending your time and money on a thing you actively hate."
Exactly.
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