None of the police who murdered a girl in her sleep will be charged with a crime

[G-Man]

I think that Glenn Beck has the fairest take on this.

Apparently, the police had a no-knock warrant, but they knocked anyway, and they claim to have introduced themselves as police (the boyfriend who shot at them heard the knocking, but as far as I can tell was unaware that they claimed to be police - I suppose it is possible that he might have heard but thought it was her ex or one of her ex's friends lying to get the door open). The boyfriend thought that it was Breonna's ex-boyfriend trying to invade the house.

It is completely possible that both the boyfriend and the cops acted reasonably given the lack of complete knowledge on anyone's part. The boyfriend had every reason to defend the house, and the police were justified in returning fire when fired upon.

In other words, the only fault here may be on the system that allowed this situation to occur (which is why there was a wrongful death settlement). Serving a warrant at 1 am in the morning is not necessarily the best policy.

There is some question as to whether the information on which the warrant was based was accurate (there was a claim that the house was receiving suspicious packages in the mail, but the postal inspector denies this). If this is true, whoever falsified the information should be held accountable for Breonna's death. But even if the warrant is bad, that does not mean that the cops who shot her did anything wrong, because they may not have had anything to do with getting the warrant.

I believe that the wanton endangerment charge is because the officer was shooting wildly and not toward the threat (it is irresponsible to fire if you are not going to aim first).

I do not believe that the police murdered Ms. Taylor. But I also do not believe that this was a situation where she and her boyfriend were in the wrong (as in, for example, the Michael Brown or Jake Blake cases).

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I think that Glenn Beck has the fairest take on this.

Apparently, the police had a no-knock warrant, but they knocked anyway, and they claim to have introduced themselves as police (the boyfriend who shot at them heard the knocking, but as far as I can tell was unaware that they claimed to be police - I suppose it is possible that he might have heard but thought it was her ex or one of her ex's friends lying to get the door open). The boyfriend thought that it was Breonna's ex-boyfriend trying to invade the house.

It is completely possible that both the boyfriend and the cops acted reasonably given the lack of complete knowledge on anyone's part. The boyfriend had every reason to defend the house, and the police were justified in returning fire when fired upon.

In other words, the only fault here may be on the system that allowed this situation to occur (which is why there was a wrongful death settlement). Serving a warrant at 1 am in the morning is not necessarily the best policy.

There is some question as to whether the information on which the warrant was based was accurate (there was a claim that the house was receiving suspicious packages in the mail, but the postal inspector denies this). If this is true, whoever falsified the information should be held accountable for Breonna's death. But even if the warrant is bad, that does not mean that the cops who shot her did anything wrong, because they may not have had anything to do with getting the warrant.

I believe that the wanton endangerment charge is because the officer was shooting wildly and not toward the threat (it is irresponsible to fire if you are not going to aim first).

I do not believe that the police murdered Ms. Taylor. But I also do not believe that this was a situation where she and her boyfriend were in the wrong (as in, for example, the Michael Brown or Jake Blake cases).

I mean, this is pretty much how I see it, just based on becoming acquainted with the matter yesterday.

[unknownsample]

I think that Glenn Beck has the fairest take on this.

Apparently, the police had a no-knock warrant, but they knocked anyway, and they claim to have introduced themselves as police (the boyfriend who shot at them heard the knocking, but as far as I can tell was unaware that they claimed to be police - I suppose it is possible that he might have heard but thought it was her ex or one of her ex's friends lying to get the door open). The boyfriend thought that it was Breonna's ex-boyfriend trying to invade the house.

It is completely possible that both the boyfriend and the cops acted reasonably given the lack of complete knowledge on anyone's part. The boyfriend had every reason to defend the house, and the police were justified in returning fire when fired upon.

In other words, the only fault here may be on the system that allowed this situation to occur (which is why there was a wrongful death settlement). Serving a warrant at 1 am in the morning is not necessarily the best policy.

There is some question as to whether the information on which the warrant was based was accurate (there was a claim that the house was receiving suspicious packages in the mail, but the postal inspector denies this). If this is true, whoever falsified the information should be held accountable for Breonna's death. But even if the warrant is bad, that does not mean that the cops who shot her did anything wrong, because they may not have had anything to do with getting the warrant.

I believe that the wanton endangerment charge is because the officer was shooting wildly and not toward the threat (it is irresponsible to fire if you are not going to aim first).

I do not believe that the police murdered Ms. Taylor. But I also do not believe that this was a situation where she and her boyfriend were in the wrong (as in, for example, the Michael Brown or Jake Blake cases).

What's angering people is that they've only been charged with damaging property, property it seems matters more than human life.

[unknownsample]

Let's flip the script.

What was the man supposed to do when a bunch of armed strangers burst into his home without announcing themselves? What was he supposed to think? What was Breanna Taylor supposed to do to not end up dead?

How could the people who were just living in their home supposed to do so that they aren't gunned down in the course of their law-abiding lives? What would YOU do in their situation?

Well, if this criminal "man" could somehow see that the strangers were armed, then he should of been able to figure out they were police.

Breanna could have ducked and covered....and, oh, not hang out with, date and sleep with a criminal thug(more then one too).

Well, most law abiding people have no problems.

Clearly she deserved to be shot whilst sleeping.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Let's flip the script.

What was the man supposed to do when a bunch of armed strangers burst into his home without announcing themselves? What was he supposed to think? What was Breanna Taylor supposed to do to not end up dead?

How could the people who were just living in their home supposed to do so that they aren't gunned down in the course of their law-abiding lives? What would YOU do in their situation?

Well, if this criminal "man" could somehow see that the strangers were armed, then he should of been able to figure out they were police.

Breanna could have ducked and covered....and, oh, not hang out with, date and sleep with a criminal thug(more then one too).

Well, most law abiding people have no problems.

Weird hill to die on, but at least you're dead.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I think that Glenn Beck has the fairest take on this.

Apparently, the police had a no-knock warrant, but they knocked anyway, and they claim to have introduced themselves as police (the boyfriend who shot at them heard the knocking, but as far as I can tell was unaware that they claimed to be police - I suppose it is possible that he might have heard but thought it was her ex or one of her ex's friends lying to get the door open). The boyfriend thought that it was Breonna's ex-boyfriend trying to invade the house.

It is completely possible that both the boyfriend and the cops acted reasonably given the lack of complete knowledge on anyone's part. The boyfriend had every reason to defend the house, and the police were justified in returning fire when fired upon.

In other words, the only fault here may be on the system that allowed this situation to occur (which is why there was a wrongful death settlement). Serving a warrant at 1 am in the morning is not necessarily the best policy.

There is some question as to whether the information on which the warrant was based was accurate (there was a claim that the house was receiving suspicious packages in the mail, but the postal inspector denies this). If this is true, whoever falsified the information should be held accountable for Breonna's death. But even if the warrant is bad, that does not mean that the cops who shot her did anything wrong, because they may not have had anything to do with getting the warrant.

I believe that the wanton endangerment charge is because the officer was shooting wildly and not toward the threat (it is irresponsible to fire if you are not going to aim first).

I do not believe that the police murdered Ms. Taylor. But I also do not believe that this was a situation where she and her boyfriend were in the wrong (as in, for example, the Michael Brown or Jake Blake cases).

Where would you say the extensive after-the-fact police cover up falls into this? Claiming their were no injuries, denying her medical attention, etc?

Please remember that, whenever you defend this, you are arguing for a world where the police can, legally, storm into your house in the middle of the night and kill you in your sleep.

[Madner Kami]

Please remember that, whenever you defend this, you are arguing for a world where the police can, legally, storm into your house in the middle of the night and kill you in your sleep.

The cause of death is the guy shooting at the police and the police retaliating in kind. I doubt anyone would've died if the guy hadn't held a gun in his hands.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Please remember that, whenever you defend this, you are arguing for a world where the police can, legally, storm into your house in the middle of the night and kill you in your sleep.

The cause of death is the guy shooting at the police and the police retaliating in kind. I doubt anyone would've died if the guy hadn't held a gun in his hands.

The whole process of the warrant and procedure involved with it seems pretty shot.

Apparently the warrant was invalid and supposed to be a knock-knock instead of letting themselves in. The fact that it was 1 AM is kind of weird too.

[clearspira]

https://www.aol.com/grand-jury-decision-breonna-taylor-183812872.html

This nation is much better at cracking down on people who protest the murder of a young woman in her sleep than it is on holding the people who murdered her to account in any way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54273317

They were charged with wanton endangerment, which is an act that shows a reckless disregard for human life. This is different to manslaughter which is an act of killing someone without malice, and murder which is the act of killing someone with malice.

The reason for this decision is because they were aiming at the guy next to her WHO WAS FIRING AT THEM and missed. The way you and others like you keep on describing this incident is that the police entered her room and just executed her in her bed for no reason. This is nothing more than yet another tragic example of why your gun saturated country is a terrible idea.

Make me an argument as to why this was manslaughter or murder and also make me an argument what the police should have done differently when coming under fire. Because I am not seeing it.

Let's flip the script.

What was the man supposed to do when a bunch of armed strangers burst into his home without announcing themselves? What was he supposed to think? What was Breanna Taylor supposed to do to not end up dead?

How could the people who were just living in their home supposed to do so that they aren't gunned down in the course of their law-abiding lives? What would YOU do in their situation?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but surely the first thing they teach you when learning to shoot a firearm is to make sure that you have identified your target before you fire? If you are close enough to fire then you are close enough to see the police uniforms.

You know what I am reminded of here? Oscar Pistorius. He tried that defence too when he shot his wife through their own bathroom door.
''I thought that there was a burglar in my house. I was defending myself!!''
''Ah, so you didn't notice that your wife was no longer beside you in bed? And you didn't make any attempt at all to work out who was actually inside that bathroom before you fired?''
''Um...''
''You did it. Case closed.''

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

https://www.aol.com/grand-jury-decision-breonna-taylor-183812872.html

This nation is much better at cracking down on people who protest the murder of a young woman in her sleep than it is on holding the people who murdered her to account in any way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54273317

They were charged with wanton endangerment, which is an act that shows a reckless disregard for human life. This is different to manslaughter which is an act of killing someone without malice, and murder which is the act of killing someone with malice.

The reason for this decision is because they were aiming at the guy next to her WHO WAS FIRING AT THEM and missed. The way you and others like you keep on describing this incident is that the police entered her room and just executed her in her bed for no reason. This is nothing more than yet another tragic example of why your gun saturated country is a terrible idea.

Make me an argument as to why this was manslaughter or murder and also make me an argument what the police should have done differently when coming under fire. Because I am not seeing it.

Let's flip the script.

What was the man supposed to do when a bunch of armed strangers burst into his home without announcing themselves? What was he supposed to think? What was Breanna Taylor supposed to do to not end up dead?

How could the people who were just living in their home supposed to do so that they aren't gunned down in the course of their law-abiding lives? What would YOU do in their situation?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but surely the first thing they teach you when learning to shoot a firearm is to make sure that you have identified your target before you fire? If you are close enough to fire then you are close enough to see the police uniforms.

You know what I am reminded of here? Oscar Pistorius. He tried that defence too when he shot his wife through their own bathroom door.
''I thought that there was a burglar in my house. I was defending myself!!''
''Ah, so you didn't notice that your wife was no longer beside you in bed? And you didn't make any attempt at all to work out who was actually inside that bathroom before you fired?''
''Um...''
''You did it. Case closed.''

This does tend to be a polar circumstance between American gun defense advocates and others.

I only THINK the general idea (not outlined principle) is that anyone can have a gun, and people in general aren't really highly trained and thus need to be more aggressive as that's more effective at saving their life considering they don't know what the perpetrator intends to do.

Just legally, for instance and all intents and purposes, it ends up in favor of the proprietor of the property.