What was gained from changing the makeup of the Klingons? I suppose tying into the reboots, which had a similar changed aesthetic, so bad example. What was gained from enhancing the technology so that it's more advanced than it should be only, from what they tell yes, ten years prior to TOS Kirk? I don't buy it, it was just a tool for lazy writers taking cues of ingrained pop-culture views of ST, which emphasized less on TOS over the decades and more upon the TNG era stuff, as well. But on the other hand, I did love Tilly, so if they can get their heads out of their a***holes, then there's hope. I'm merely skeptical the current crop of college-dropout writers can.Link8909 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:45 pmI see what you mean, while I'm personally easy going when it comes to cannon and I was fine and even liked some of the retcons and new additions in Star Trek Discovery, I can see how other people would get annoyed by these things, they were additions that raised questions and were unnecessary to being with, so I do hope that in Strange New Worlds (which will be the only prequel series in this era of Star Trek now) they don't drop similar bombshells to what Discovery did.Captain Crimson wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:47 pm Another thing I'd like. I know that ST has always been fast and loose with continuity, even going back to the TNG days, when that was the only sequel series ever, but I feel like they need to at least try to adhere to it, to an extent. So that any deviations are retcons, ones you choose. It's not even that hard. Just read through each episode and movie summary on MA. Treat those as C Canon, like from the old SW EU, and treat the books, video games, and TAS, if you wanna go with them, as S Canon, also from the old SW EU. I'd be fine with retcons if I didn't get the impression it's because the writers were accidentally blundering into them, not deliberately as creative license, that they are ignorant to the depth of the lore, and can only grasp the broader aspects - you know, that even Mr. Abrams was able to hit, Mr. Pine's Kirk is a ladies man, beds green women, fights people? Because we all know what happens when you only hit the broad notes, and don't reach to the substance, the layer beneath it.
READ. Don't skim. As someone like Mr. Filoni over in the SW fandom gives me the impression of skimming the lore rather than patiently absorbing it, which yields mixed results. And reading, it seems is just too much effort for our modern crop of Ritalin-fueled pot-smoking hippie artists.
However because most worlds that Captain Kirk discovered in The Original Series aren't brought up in the future, I think it's fine for Captain Pike to discover worlds that we haven't see or heard of before.
Also I consider The Animated Series cannon.
This is why ENT has gotten an ever so slight reevaluation, because there is more wriggle room with a century than a decade. At least STP felt more like a genuine attempt at a PT revival, whatever flaws it had. Despite my skepticism, if they can pull their A-game together, and ditch the all too easy dystopia trends creeping into our pop-culture sensibilities, then we have a real shot a second-wave renaissance for ST. Will they? Time will tell.
