Our President is a White Supremacist

[Captain Crimson]

Well, many of them are still on this forum, "president responds to request to condemn right supremacy by giving standing orders to white supremacists to be ready" is still a horrific milestone.

Again, though, they just have the alternate viewpoint. You yourself have said many times, we're all class peers here. Unless somebody the powerball and got three billion dollars richer since last time?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

He should condemn white supremacists when Biden condemns the black militias currently marching through your streets. He won't though, for these are just highly armed prospectors of peace in black camo and masks.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8802817/Hundreds-members-black-militia-raise-guns-Louisiana-rally.html

He should condemn white supremacists because he is the president of this entire nation, and the president should not actively egg on a domestic terrorist group that is trying to remove everyone in the nation who isn't white. What the guy running for the same office is or isn't doing has no bearing on the president's moral responsibility here and now.

[CharlesPhipps]

He should condemn white supremacists when Biden condemns the black militias currently marching through your streets. He won't though, for these are just highly armed prospectors of peace in black camo and masks

I'm sorry but you realize there ISN'T a race war going on in America right and that even if there was, you wouldn't have to pick a side, right? President Trump should condemn white supremacy because white supremacy is evil. We know he already condemns BLM and peaceful protestors as terrorists but even in the hypothetical world that it's a bunch of baddies, he STILL should condemn white supremacists because white supremacy is bad.

Because he's not just the President of White People.

Except he's made it abundantly clear that's what he thinks of himself as.

[CharlesPhipps]

The right to form militias has been around for a while.

I live in Kentucky in an area of about 40 militias surrounding me. I'm pretty familiar with the laws governing and controlling them.

Since The Whiskey Rebellion of 1794, the right to form a militia is sacrosanct right up until the time you actually start shooting people, in which it becomes treason and/or murder. At which point, you and your cohorts are to be treated as the criminals to be hung you are.

I was the same age as the Columbine kids and was on a school field trip when those monsters went on a rampage. I see no difference between them and the guys who want to start shooting protestors to live out their murder fantasies.

[clearspira]

He should condemn white supremacists when Biden condemns the black militias currently marching through your streets. He won't though, for these are just highly armed prospectors of peace in black camo and masks

I'm sorry but you realize there ISN'T a race war going on in America right and that even if there was, you wouldn't have to pick a side, right? President Trump should condemn white supremacy because white supremacy is evil. We know he already condemns BLM and peaceful protestors as terrorists but even in the hypothetical world that it's a bunch of baddies, he STILL should condemn white supremacists because white supremacy is bad.

Because he's not just the President of White People.

Except he's made it abundantly clear that's what he thinks of himself as.

He can do both, absolutely. But you know and I know that if those automatic weapon toting militias were wearing white pointed hoods then Biden would dislodge his jaw in his haste to condemn them.

[CharlesPhipps]

He should condemn white supremacists when Biden condemns the black militias currently marching through your streets. He won't though, for these are just highly armed prospectors of peace in black camo and masks

I'm sorry but you realize there ISN'T a race war going on in America right and that even if there was, you wouldn't have to pick a side, right? President Trump should condemn white supremacy because white supremacy is evil. We know he already condemns BLM and peaceful protestors as terrorists but even in the hypothetical world that it's a bunch of baddies, he STILL should condemn white supremacists because white supremacy is bad.

Because he's not just the President of White People.

Except he's made it abundantly clear that's what he thinks of himself as.

He can do both, absolutely. But you know and I know that if those automatic weapon toting militias were wearing white pointed hoods then Biden would dislodge his jaw in his haste to condemn them.

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Yes, because they're fucking awful.

If Joe condemns the KKK and not, say, Bad Black Man ArmyTM then he's still half-right.

[Captain Crimson]

And this just in, Mr. Biden is a plagiarist. It should be non-partisan common sense to say Mr. 45 is a white supremacist even if you think defending the Proud Boys didn't fit the bill. The same way you should be able to say that Mr. Biden is a plagiarist, that he "borrowed" a speech from another.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

He should condemn white supremacists when Biden condemns the black militias currently marching through your streets. He won't though, for these are just highly armed prospectors of peace in black camo and masks

I'm sorry but you realize there ISN'T a race war going on in America right and that even if there was, you wouldn't have to pick a side, right? President Trump should condemn white supremacy because white supremacy is evil. We know he already condemns BLM and peaceful protestors as terrorists but even in the hypothetical world that it's a bunch of baddies, he STILL should condemn white supremacists because white supremacy is bad.

Because he's not just the President of White People.

Except he's made it abundantly clear that's what he thinks of himself as.

He can do both, absolutely. But you know and I know that if those automatic weapon toting militias were wearing white pointed hoods then Biden would dislodge his jaw in his haste to condemn them.

1. How exactly would that be a bad thing?
and
2. None of this changes that the president should condemn white supremacy. I know you're not a big fan of the Soviets so maybe lay off the what-about-ism.

[clearspira]

He should condemn white supremacists when Biden condemns the black militias currently marching through your streets. He won't though, for these are just highly armed prospectors of peace in black camo and masks

I'm sorry but you realize there ISN'T a race war going on in America right and that even if there was, you wouldn't have to pick a side, right? President Trump should condemn white supremacy because white supremacy is evil. We know he already condemns BLM and peaceful protestors as terrorists but even in the hypothetical world that it's a bunch of baddies, he STILL should condemn white supremacists because white supremacy is bad.

Because he's not just the President of White People.

Except he's made it abundantly clear that's what he thinks of himself as.

He can do both, absolutely. But you know and I know that if those automatic weapon toting militias were wearing white pointed hoods then Biden would dislodge his jaw in his haste to condemn them.

1. How exactly would that be a bad thing?
and
2. None of this changes that the president should condemn white supremacy. I know you're not a big fan of the Soviets so maybe lay off the what-about-ism.

It would be a bad thing because he is allowing one thing for one group of people whilst condemning another for the exact same thing. Come on now, I know you are smarter than that.

Here's the thing: you're talking to me. I don't believe that so-called logical fallacies are automatically wrong, in fact, I go the other way. They are used almost exclusively as convenient buzzwords to shut down arguments rather than a tool that is used in service of your greater argument.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Condemning the KKK is inherently not a bad thing. Failing to condemn another group would be its own bad thing, independent of whether or not you say "Hey, those pointy-hooded dudes that lynch children and bomb churches? They are not very nice people and I don't like what they do." That doesn't make you a hypocrit, it makes you somebody with at least SOME moral awareness.

Whatever group Biden supports or doesn't support means bupkas to 45 refusing to condemn white supremacists and instead giving them a shoutout. 45 is the president, of the united states, and he's a white supremacist, and nothing you say about Biden is going to make him any less of an unapologetic white supremacist, or at all diminish the horror of that.