So Trump has Covid-19

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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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CharlesPhipps wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:04 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:55 am that kind of thinking makes it all the more easy for you to one day do horrible things yourself. now, I'm questioning what you said about you promising to try and keep protests peaceful, seems you think all cops deserve to die.
Oh such bullshit. Because someone hates Trump they're a bunch of terrorists who want cops to die. That's your fucking argument? The guy who mocks dead soldiers as "losers" is the guy who cares about boys in blue? Fucking nonsense.

I hate Donald Trump but what I want from cops is for them to stop killing people and there to be a less violent police force. I would never another cop be shot ever. I think the militarization of the police endangers them as much as it does those killed by stupidly written rules of engagement.

And let me ask a question. "Did you like it when Osama Bin Ladin died?" "Does that makes you want all cops to die?"

Serious question.

I am an actual pacifist in REAL LIFE and find this shit logic.
there's a diffierence between holding someone in contempt and being happy at the prospect of their death. I take a great deal of my morality from the English dub version of Goku from Dragon Ball Z and he felt pity for even Frieza, a character who is literally a trillion times worse then Hitler.

but I'm glad you at least, don't want harm to come to cops. and I never said Fuzzy does, I hope he doesn't.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:11 am there's a diffierence between holding someone in contempt and being happy at the prospect of their death. I take a great deal of my morality from the English dub version of Goku from Dragon Ball Z and he felt pity for even Frieza, a character who is literally a trillion times worse then Hitler.

but I'm glad you at least, don't want harm to come to cops. and I never said Fuzzy does, I hope he doesn't.
I think you dramatically overestimate the number of people cheering cop deaths.
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Blue Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter. That's how it is.
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Okay, bringing this up before I hit the hay.

Any possibility the slanted media coverage will influence people to side with Mr. 45? I get the reasons they dislike, but at the same time, these are NOT our class peers, but public figures. They have a duty to the truth and respectable journalism, and the impression I get is that too often they let their, rather understandable, disdain for Mr. 45 interfere with the news. Perhaps not to a huge extent, depending on who you ask, but it's hardly an attempt to address the systemic flaws in our society. And this could have the same effect from 2016, driving his base into silence because if they see their flag-bearer being, let's admit it, in some ways unfairly piled on, then they're hardly going to be honest on polls.

I agree Mr. 45 brought this entirely on himself and it deserves mention and dissection from the MSM. Being this slanted in terms of biased coverage, less so.

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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:11 am
CharlesPhipps wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:04 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:55 am that kind of thinking makes it all the more easy for you to one day do horrible things yourself. now, I'm questioning what you said about you promising to try and keep protests peaceful, seems you think all cops deserve to die.
Oh such bullshit. Because someone hates Trump they're a bunch of terrorists who want cops to die. That's your fucking argument? The guy who mocks dead soldiers as "losers" is the guy who cares about boys in blue? Fucking nonsense.

I hate Donald Trump but what I want from cops is for them to stop killing people and there to be a less violent police force. I would never another cop be shot ever. I think the militarization of the police endangers them as much as it does those killed by stupidly written rules of engagement.

And let me ask a question. "Did you like it when Osama Bin Ladin died?" "Does that makes you want all cops to die?"

Serious question.

I am an actual pacifist in REAL LIFE and find this shit logic.
there's a diffierence between holding someone in contempt and being happy at the prospect of their death. I take a great deal of my morality from the English dub version of Goku from Dragon Ball Z and he felt pity for even Frieza, a character who is literally a trillion times worse then Hitler.

but I'm glad you at least, don't want harm to come to cops. and I never said Fuzzy does, I hope he doesn't.
I want you to go back and reread my post that you quoted, and CharlesPhipps's post, in the hopes that they will sink in better.

I'd also like it if you, I dunno, watch a youtube series on moral philosophy or something before you try to invoke the ethics of shonen anime.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:51 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:11 am
CharlesPhipps wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:04 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:55 am that kind of thinking makes it all the more easy for you to one day do horrible things yourself. now, I'm questioning what you said about you promising to try and keep protests peaceful, seems you think all cops deserve to die.
Oh such bullshit. Because someone hates Trump they're a bunch of terrorists who want cops to die. That's your fucking argument? The guy who mocks dead soldiers as "losers" is the guy who cares about boys in blue? Fucking nonsense.

I hate Donald Trump but what I want from cops is for them to stop killing people and there to be a less violent police force. I would never another cop be shot ever. I think the militarization of the police endangers them as much as it does those killed by stupidly written rules of engagement.

And let me ask a question. "Did you like it when Osama Bin Ladin died?" "Does that makes you want all cops to die?"

Serious question.

I am an actual pacifist in REAL LIFE and find this shit logic.
there's a diffierence between holding someone in contempt and being happy at the prospect of their death. I take a great deal of my morality from the English dub version of Goku from Dragon Ball Z and he felt pity for even Frieza, a character who is literally a trillion times worse then Hitler.

but I'm glad you at least, don't want harm to come to cops. and I never said Fuzzy does, I hope he doesn't.
I want you to go back and reread my post that you quoted, and CharlesPhipps's post, in the hopes that they will sink in better.

I'd also like it if you, I dunno, watch a youtube series on moral philosophy or something before you try to invoke the ethics of shonen anime.
I don't think I misread what you posted, if I did, explain it to me. and I've already decided what my ethics are.
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Well, if you think worse of me based on what I said, I'm just gonna let you do that because I'm tired of putting in so much effort trying to persuade you of things. I don't hold myself to the ethical standards of Goku, nor do I think I should be expected to.

I am not going to dial back my schadenfruede in order to please a stranger on the internet, especially when I have a target so richly deserving as this and it increases my hope that I might be able to get through 2021.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:09 am Well, if you think worse of me based on what I said, I'm just gonna let you do that because I'm tired of putting in so much effort trying to persuade you of things. I don't hold myself to the ethical standards of Goku, nor do I think I should be expected to.

I am not going to dial back my schadenfruede in order to please a stranger on the internet, especially when I have a target so richly deserving as this and it increases my hope that I might be able to get through 2021.
well, I hope you still hold to your promise to keep protest peaceful.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Being non-violent at protests should be easy, given that when a guy who refused to leave my porch turned violent after several minutes of arguing, I just soaked up the punches while repressing the urge to hit back, even after I fell down, got up again, and he decided to keep punching me.

None of that is going to stop me from cackling over this hated person's misfortune like a half-remembered nightmare viewed through a smoked glass of failure and regrets.

And if we're judging by people who keep their hearts 100% pure vs actual morality or immorality of actions, I want to remind you that, while I have not killed anyone, Goku totally does kill people and also fights for fun. So if both me and Goku were at a protest, I would consider Goku the higher risk factor where possible violence is concerned.

Another time I might say there's something strange about that last paragraph, but what the Hecate, it's 2020.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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CharlesPhipps wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:38 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:11 am there's a diffierence between holding someone in contempt and being happy at the prospect of their death. I take a great deal of my morality from the English dub version of Goku from Dragon Ball Z and he felt pity for even Frieza, a character who is literally a trillion times worse then Hitler.

but I'm glad you at least, don't want harm to come to cops. and I never said Fuzzy does, I hope he doesn't.
I think you dramatically overestimate the number of people cheering cop deaths.
By literally a trillion what is his fixation with cops anyway?
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