So Trump has Covid-19

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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Captain Crimson wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:26 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:24 pm OK, so he's now left hospital and his doctors are claiming that he has no symptoms of Covid-19 and has a 97% oxygen saturation level.

I'm calling this. Unless there is some magical cure they've got at that hospital that they only give the 1%, he was faking. No chance in hell that an elderly, obese man has recovered this quickly.

This is some Kim Jong level propaganda. Y'know, how Kimmy claims to have scored eighteen holes in one on his first time playing golf? This is the same thing: Trump not only beat Covid, he's a superman with the immune system of a Greek god.
Or are his doctors lying and he does have it? Who knows. I agree with you. This is just flat-out bogus.
For no particular reason, lets look back at the Herman Cain covid timeline:

6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies

https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1313192280971452418
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:15 am So I can't claim any moral high ground at all while grinning at a man suffering from a disease he did everything within his power to spread and promote, while he has the medical care and supports he would deny to others? I don't have to be a friggin saint to be better than him.
You paid your taxes. That automatically makes you the better man. So honestly, keep laughing at him, because that piece of shit deserves all the derision.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Makeshift Python wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:52 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:26 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:24 pm OK, so he's now left hospital and his doctors are claiming that he has no symptoms of Covid-19 and has a 97% oxygen saturation level.

I'm calling this. Unless there is some magical cure they've got at that hospital that they only give the 1%, he was faking. No chance in hell that an elderly, obese man has recovered this quickly.

This is some Kim Jong level propaganda. Y'know, how Kimmy claims to have scored eighteen holes in one on his first time playing golf? This is the same thing: Trump not only beat Covid, he's a superman with the immune system of a Greek god.
Or are his doctors lying and he does have it? Who knows. I agree with you. This is just flat-out bogus.
For no particular reason, lets look back at the Herman Cain covid timeline:

6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies

https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1313192280971452418
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:15 am So I can't claim any moral high ground at all while grinning at a man suffering from a disease he did everything within his power to spread and promote, while he has the medical care and supports he would deny to others? I don't have to be a friggin saint to be better than him.
You paid your taxes. That automatically makes you the better man. So honestly, keep laughing at him, because that piece of shit deserves all the derision.
So do I. And I seen many right libertarians opposed to higher taxation. So my thinking tends to be more like, well... Mr. Lemmon's role from Mr Fellow Americans, '96 movie.

That all you have is millions of voices screaming different things at you. The ONLY thing we all agree on is that we don't want higher taxes.

Sadly true.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Makeshift Python wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:52 pm You paid your taxes. That automatically makes you the better man. So honestly, keep laughing at him, because that piece of shit deserves all the derision.
I will never stop thinking this kind of mindset is heartless.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:03 pm
TGLS wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:00 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:10 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:15 am So I can't claim any moral high ground at all while grinning at a man suffering from a disease he did everything within his power to spread and promote, while he has the medical care and supports he would deny to others? I don't have to be a friggin saint to be better than him.
again, this would be a normal reaction but there is a pre existing hatred of the man that taints it and hate is always wrong.
You know, that's a really trite. Hate isn't wrong, it's what you do with it. If someone hates global inequality and responds to the hate by mailing pipe-bombs to billionaires, that's wrong. If someone hates Hillary Clinton and responds to the hate by supporting the GOP, that's not wrong (some may disagree, but I still insist on playing 2010 rules).

If you hate something, and you don't have a good outlet, it isn't wrong, but it is self-destructive, which is a bad idea.
but it's always wrong when directed at a person. now, this kind of amusement would be okay if it came from contempt, I've done that but not actual hate.
Nah.

I hate him because he has done lots of horrible things, many of which affect me and my friends personally, and because he is a nakedly evil man who revels in his own cruelty and immunity from consequences. Now that he is, for the first time in his grotesque life, experiencing weakness and suffering from the disease that he continues to willingly spread, that kills people, the man that sat in a luxury hospital suite while his people died from the same disease on the cold floor because they were too weak to crawl to the door or get help, I will enjoy that suffering which he so richly deserves.

You have the sheer audacity to wag your bony finger at me, and clutch your pearls, because I dared to revel in the self-inflicted misfortune of a man who would sell any one of us to an organ-harvesting plant for one diet coke. Because you apparently care more about Holding Hate in my Heart than you do about actual violence, cruelty, and material evil with material consequences.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:59 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:52 pm You paid your taxes. That automatically makes you the better man. So honestly, keep laughing at him, because that piece of shit deserves all the derision.
I will never stop thinking this kind of mindset is heartless.
Well then, go on thinking it. I personally can confirm that I have a heart, that it can ache, that I can shed tears, that I can feel compassion, and love, and sympathy.

I also am firm in the knowledge that this man deserves none of those things, and if he dies from this I would be delighted to dance on his grave.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:03 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:03 pm
TGLS wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:00 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:10 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:15 am So I can't claim any moral high ground at all while grinning at a man suffering from a disease he did everything within his power to spread and promote, while he has the medical care and supports he would deny to others? I don't have to be a friggin saint to be better than him.
again, this would be a normal reaction but there is a pre existing hatred of the man that taints it and hate is always wrong.
You know, that's a really trite. Hate isn't wrong, it's what you do with it. If someone hates global inequality and responds to the hate by mailing pipe-bombs to billionaires, that's wrong. If someone hates Hillary Clinton and responds to the hate by supporting the GOP, that's not wrong (some may disagree, but I still insist on playing 2010 rules).

If you hate something, and you don't have a good outlet, it isn't wrong, but it is self-destructive, which is a bad idea.
but it's always wrong when directed at a person. now, this kind of amusement would be okay if it came from contempt, I've done that but not actual hate.
Nah.

I hate him because he has done lots of horrible things, many of which affect me and my friends personally, and because he is a nakedly evil man who revels in his own cruelty and immunity from consequences. Now that he is, for the first time in his grotesque life, experiencing weakness and suffering from the disease that he continues to willingly spread, that kills people, the man that sat in a luxury hospital suite while his people died from the same disease on the cold floor because they were too weak to crawl to the door or get help, I will enjoy that suffering which he so richly deserves.

You have the sheer audacity to wag your bony finger at me, and clutch your pearls, because I dared to revel in the self-inflicted misfortune of a man who would sell any one of us to an organ-harvesting plant for one diet coke. Because you apparently care more about Holding Hate in my Heart than you do about actual violence, cruelty, and material evil with material consequences.
over in the thread about the nature of evil, people kept telling me that this kind of thinking was a slippery slope for me, which I took to heart, why can't you?
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Looked at his twitter feed, and it looks like something you would put near the end of a creepy pasta to show that the narrator was succumbing to the curse/brain parasite/brown note virus.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:30 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:03 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:03 pm
TGLS wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:00 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:10 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:15 am So I can't claim any moral high ground at all while grinning at a man suffering from a disease he did everything within his power to spread and promote, while he has the medical care and supports he would deny to others? I don't have to be a friggin saint to be better than him.
again, this would be a normal reaction but there is a pre existing hatred of the man that taints it and hate is always wrong.
You know, that's a really trite. Hate isn't wrong, it's what you do with it. If someone hates global inequality and responds to the hate by mailing pipe-bombs to billionaires, that's wrong. If someone hates Hillary Clinton and responds to the hate by supporting the GOP, that's not wrong (some may disagree, but I still insist on playing 2010 rules).

If you hate something, and you don't have a good outlet, it isn't wrong, but it is self-destructive, which is a bad idea.
but it's always wrong when directed at a person. now, this kind of amusement would be okay if it came from contempt, I've done that but not actual hate.
Nah.

I hate him because he has done lots of horrible things, many of which affect me and my friends personally, and because he is a nakedly evil man who revels in his own cruelty and immunity from consequences. Now that he is, for the first time in his grotesque life, experiencing weakness and suffering from the disease that he continues to willingly spread, that kills people, the man that sat in a luxury hospital suite while his people died from the same disease on the cold floor because they were too weak to crawl to the door or get help, I will enjoy that suffering which he so richly deserves.

You have the sheer audacity to wag your bony finger at me, and clutch your pearls, because I dared to revel in the self-inflicted misfortune of a man who would sell any one of us to an organ-harvesting plant for one diet coke. Because you apparently care more about Holding Hate in my Heart than you do about actual violence, cruelty, and material evil with material consequences.
over in the thread about the nature of evil, people kept telling me that this kind of thinking was a slippery slope for me, which I took to heart, why can't you?
Because hating somebody for inflicting massive suffering on a nation, including me personally, is very different from hating somebody for being a race, gender, or religion you don't like. MLK gave a big speech about how men should be judged on the content of their character, and the content of his character is shit.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:50 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:30 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:03 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:03 pm
TGLS wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:00 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:10 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:15 am So I can't claim any moral high ground at all while grinning at a man suffering from a disease he did everything within his power to spread and promote, while he has the medical care and supports he would deny to others? I don't have to be a friggin saint to be better than him.
again, this would be a normal reaction but there is a pre existing hatred of the man that taints it and hate is always wrong.
You know, that's a really trite. Hate isn't wrong, it's what you do with it. If someone hates global inequality and responds to the hate by mailing pipe-bombs to billionaires, that's wrong. If someone hates Hillary Clinton and responds to the hate by supporting the GOP, that's not wrong (some may disagree, but I still insist on playing 2010 rules).

If you hate something, and you don't have a good outlet, it isn't wrong, but it is self-destructive, which is a bad idea.
but it's always wrong when directed at a person. now, this kind of amusement would be okay if it came from contempt, I've done that but not actual hate.
Nah.

I hate him because he has done lots of horrible things, many of which affect me and my friends personally, and because he is a nakedly evil man who revels in his own cruelty and immunity from consequences. Now that he is, for the first time in his grotesque life, experiencing weakness and suffering from the disease that he continues to willingly spread, that kills people, the man that sat in a luxury hospital suite while his people died from the same disease on the cold floor because they were too weak to crawl to the door or get help, I will enjoy that suffering which he so richly deserves.

You have the sheer audacity to wag your bony finger at me, and clutch your pearls, because I dared to revel in the self-inflicted misfortune of a man who would sell any one of us to an organ-harvesting plant for one diet coke. Because you apparently care more about Holding Hate in my Heart than you do about actual violence, cruelty, and material evil with material consequences.
over in the thread about the nature of evil, people kept telling me that this kind of thinking was a slippery slope for me, which I took to heart, why can't you?
Because hating somebody for inflicting massive suffering on a nation, including me personally, is very different from hating somebody for being a race, gender, or religion you don't like. MLK gave a big speech about how men should be judged on the content of their character, and the content of his character is shit.
this has nothing to do with hating someone for their race, I said the same things about people like Hitler and others told me how that was a slippery slope.

Tell me, would it be okay for you or anyone else to break into the White House and torture Trump to death, he deserves it, right? at bare minimum, we should respect even the worst of people's human rights or we are no better then them.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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"Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
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