The great 2020 election thread....

[Captain Crimson]

Does it really matter who wins next month? We all lose.

Only one-quarter of the country can feel satisfied in saying they feel represented, that they had a hand in picking who will lead us. The omnibus ballot, IMO, is one of the worst ideas ever conceived when you look to other countries, born out of a misguided traditionalist caucus romanticism I think that most blue collars gritting themselves through the daily grind are burnt out on - whether republican and democrat. The system is pressuring us so hard to vote, even I was dragged into it, and rest assured I do not intend to do so in 2022 or 2024, that I think it has an opposite effect in discouraging turnout.

And after much reflection, I still somewhat feel Mr. 45 has the edge. Even after coming down with COVID, potentially. I think the plague is having a severe geographical disruption most polls can't track accurately. And I think just... it's the late stage. The decline of the great empire. Democracies are not the way of nature and were never meant to work, and everything I see says the bureaucratic backlog is at such an unprecedented level, no one knows what's gonna happen, and that contributes to the major and complex issues we face that feed into themselves, furthering the societal breakdown.

But then maybe Mr. Biden will generate a lot more republican turnout than you suspect. I mean, we just can't say. I'm just a factory grunt. What do I know? If I were a betting man, however, I'd still put Mr. 45 at 55-45 odds right now.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Does it really matter who wins next month? We all lose.

Yes, it does really matter. If 45 gets re-elected, our flaws Oligarchy becomes an absolute monarchy.

[Captain Crimson]

Does it really matter who wins next month? We all lose.

Yes, it does really matter. If 45 gets re-elected, our flaws Oligarchy becomes an absolute monarchy.

To me, the greatest and most disturbing issue in the last 20 years, and this is all from conversation with my older relatives, like my brother, uncle, is that a worrisome trend has now emerged where no matter who wins, they get accused of being a fraud. Mr. Dubya and all the controversy in the electronic ballots. Mr. 45 himself infamously railed on Mr. Obama and questioned his citizenship. And now we got insistence that Mr. 45 is a Russian puppet.

As you noted, we haven't been a democracy in a long time, if ever. What concerns me is online archiving and the sports grudge-match mentality fused to modern-day political activism has poisoned the well since this trend has not only gained traction, it's infected the whole sociopolitical sphere.

It's why the '80s and '90s nostalgia market is so potent, why it's so alluring, it aches, even to many zoomers I know who feel they'd been born in the wrong age. This kind of atmosphere was just not front and center back then. Yes, same flaws, but less hostility and less s***-flinging. It's why, in my opinion, at least, our progress has slowed down, we are stagnant, and it is the system that elects Mr. 45 to power.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Hey, at least the Democrats only engage in voter suppression during their primaries.

Also, it matters for anyone who gets life in prison for stealing his third candy bar because of minimum sentencing rules. It matters for prisoners who die from covid and other illnesses because their for-profit prisons want to save money on hand sanitizer and soap. It matters for every single starfish that a Biden victory will toss back into the sea.

[Captain Crimson]

Hey, at least the Democrats only engage in voter suppression during their primaries.

Also, it matters for anyone who gets life in prison for stealing his third candy bar because of minimum sentencing rules. It matters for prisoners who die from covid and other illnesses because their for-profit prisons want to save money on hand sanitizer and soap. It matters for every single starfish that a Biden victory will toss back into the sea.

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... that's much better?!

It matters, or so my sisters said, and it's why I'd already done my contribution. But it's just not going to fix the larger issues. You see the same thing.

The Clinton-era New Economy has failed and Big Tech has never been the savior it was touted as. I see this everywhere in Florida where I walk, live, breathe Blue Collar America. All the DNC has now is social vaporwave, and frankly, that's not gonna cut it.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I didn't say it was Much Better, just that it mattered. If you have no faith in incremental politics, I can't blame you. There's a lot of people on the far left that feel the same way. =/

[Captain Crimson]

I didn't say it was Much Better, just that it mattered. If you have no faith in incremental politics, I can't blame you. There's a lot of people on the far left that feel the same way. =/

Yeah, it does. I could agree.

The irony here is I think many of us on the same class tier have essentially the same priorities and we are not all that fundamentally different as to be as if we're from different planets.

The media, the elite, the business sharks and celebrities, however, spin it entirely in the opposite direction.

[Dragon Ball Fan]

and I also wanna say that my dad usually votes democrat for most other elected offices. and his concern is job security, he only can work for eight more years and has an ex-wife, an autistic son, a daughter, son-in-law and grandson to take care of and is not sure Joe Biden will make it easy for him to continue doing that. and if you have evidence to the contrary, my dad would like a link and not just you saying it.

[Captain Crimson]

Well, I can't ask where you live, but... what... state's results do you effect? Blue? Red? Swing state/purple?

[Dragon Ball Fan]

Well, I can't ask where you live, but... what... state's results do you effect? Blue? Red? Swing state/purple?

what kind of state is PA?