So, Round 1 for the Second American Civil War happened today

[CharlesPhipps]

Democracy won.

Round 2?

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-is-a-system-blinking-red-moment-attorneys-blame-plot-to-kidnap-gov-whitmer-on-trumps-rhetoric/

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/whitmer-wolverine-watchmen-militia-michigan/5924617002/

The Wolverine Watchmen militia group didn't just plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, but they were on a mission to attack the state Capitol and target police officers at their homes as part of a broader mission to instigate a civil war, authorities said Thursday in announcing felony charges against 13 militia members accused in a sensational case of domestic terrorism.

Attorney General Dana Nessel referred to the accused as "extremists" who are hoping to recruit new members "by seizing on a moment of civil unrest" to wreak havoc on the country. She identified the militia group as the Wolverine Watchmen, whose members are accused of, among other things, conducting surveillance outside Whitmer's vacation residence, using code language and encrypted messages to throw off police and planting a bomb under a bridge to divert law enforcement.

“There has been a disturbing increase in anti-government rhetoric and the re-emergence of groups that embrace extremist ideologies,” Nessel said at a press conference Thursday. "This is more than just political disagreement or passionate advocacy, some of these groups’ mission is simply to create chaos and inflict harm upon others.”
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Isn't this the plot of Watchmen's HBO series?

[Captain Crimson]

We've never had a democracy. The Constitution needs a serious overhaul, those clowns at the top won't do since it undercuts their own political power, but in terms of the people, revise the blood thing!

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

What a wishy-washy, centrist statement that fails to address the problem, CC.

Also these aren't a "militia", they're 100% terrorists.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

@jemelehill
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I don’t know who needs to hear this but just imagine the reaction if it would have been discovered that anyone connected to Black Lives Matter was plotting to kidnap a United States Governor.

[Captain Crimson]

What a wishy-washy, centrist statement that fails to address the problem, CC.

Also these aren't a "militia", they're 100% terrorists.

The problem is you got leftist mayors who let civilians seize a police precinct, and then you got the right fomenting fringe hate groups that wanna go after the government.

Anti-establishment policies are on the rise and have been for a long time, so let's not kid ourselves, centrism is underrated in these volatile times, the ability to at least try to see where the other side is coming from before they devolve into an exaggerated fanatic of their own political beliefs. For without understanding, there is no peace, it can't be kept through force, only higher ideals.

[CharlesPhipps]

I dunno, I think plotting to murder a governor and the families of police are a bit of an escalation versus no deaths with three empty precincts.

[Captain Crimson]

I dunno, I think plotting to murder a governor and the families of police are a bit of an escalation versus no deaths with three empty precincts.

Indeed. We've had the same thing from right and left in recent years. Does anyone remember the Portland shooter? Or that pipe bomb nut?

It's still the same root fundamental problem. And that is the erosion of trust in public and authority figures and institutions. And near so far as I can tell, it's a huge issue that's only growing worse with time regardless of who wins next month.

[goodperson25]

What a wishy-washy, centrist statement that fails to address the problem, CC.

Also these aren't a "militia", they're 100% terrorists.

The problem is you got leftist mayors who let civilians seize a police precinct, and then you got the right fomenting fringe hate groups that wanna go after the government.

Anti-establishment policies are on the rise and have been for a long time, so let's not kid ourselves, centrism is underrated in these volatile times, the ability to at least try to see where the other side is coming from before they devolve into an exaggerated fanatic of their own political beliefs. For without understanding, there is no peace, it can't be kept through force, only higher ideals.

Yes to my understanding being in the center in a political sense is underrated in the US.

Maybe you could try that out instead of being in the center of US politics.

[Captain Crimson]

What a wishy-washy, centrist statement that fails to address the problem, CC.

Also these aren't a "militia", they're 100% terrorists.

The problem is you got leftist mayors who let civilians seize a police precinct, and then you got the right fomenting fringe hate groups that wanna go after the government.

Anti-establishment policies are on the rise and have been for a long time, so let's not kid ourselves, centrism is underrated in these volatile times, the ability to at least try to see where the other side is coming from before they devolve into an exaggerated fanatic of their own political beliefs. For without understanding, there is no peace, it can't be kept through force, only higher ideals.

Yes to my understanding being in the center in a political sense is underrated in the US.

Maybe you could try that out instead of being in the center of US politics.

[CharlesPhipps]

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/08/president-trump-tweets-kidnapping-plot-criticizes-gov-whitmer/5932010002/

Trump says he denounces all violence but that the Governor is being a bitch.