None of the police who murdered a girl in her sleep will be charged with a crime

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

And the long term results are that MLK was shot and, while he lived, he was the most hated man in America. Now that he's dead, he's every political pundit and pompous windbag's imaginary black friend, and most of his more radical teachings are safely whitewashed or ignored.

You're right that most of these protestors don't want Biden, because they aren't protesting about the presidency. They are protesting about police who are allowed to murder with impunity.

You talk about how people aren't perfect and it's not a perfect world, but then demand that ordinary citizens be perfect, taking punch after punch without hitting back, while the police are allowed to go around shooting and killing like video game protagonists.

You like MLK so much? Read Letters from Birmingham Jail. You're exactly the sort of whinging moderate he saw was an even bigger stumbling block to civil rights than the KKK.

when did he say he wants the police to be able to get away with murder?

and if MLK and his followers never fought back under any circumstances and that worked perfectly, why can't the protestors today?

That's not a very sufficient detailing of the role MLKjr's passivism played in the black civil rights movement.

really? others have replied to me as if it was.

Yeah that's weird.

While that was a pretty remarkable facet of the black rights movement, I wouldn't call it particularly resolute. [edit snip]: Standing around and letting people get brutalized in order to provoke conscious change starts to get inhumane for all parties involved.

[Captain Crimson]

Mr. Chuck has consistently said over and over, he feels 9/11 was a major game-changer moment for the country. I'll agree with much of what he said, and even build on it. I'd say the shooting of Newtown had a similar ripple effect, in that it had made many of us too jaded, too cynical to care, to try and build a better world, at least as a larger community within the narrow perspective of The Present. Once you've seen the senseless deaths of 20 kids, and then you see those fat cats calling the shots refusing to lift a finger to do anything about it, you see people defaulting into their own political biases instead of what should be non-partisan common sense... you begin to build a shell around yourself, that hardens you to the world. And that's what I've done.

The violence is getting worse, stoked by elected officials, celebrities, media pundits, and more, and like moths to the flame, many of us fall for it. The difference being those people at the top are all attention w****s as it is the standard business model for America and I think we'd do well to stop listening to them, to be cautious, but also try to accept that for every tragedy of the human race, you're never going to be able to get justice for each and every one. Sometimes you need a compromise to get anything done. Yet some compromise too far and to others, that is a dirty word. You'd be surprised. The future will one day melt away the petty problems of the present... to replace them with whole new ones! And yet I still see great potential for the human race if we can ever get past these early growing pains. Remember we are but 200,000 years into our existence, and recorded history has only been around six thousand years. The universe is one of gradual change, and slow cosmic events. Time will change us for the better... or kill us all. But it is not something we can really control.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Well, they haven't arrested any of the police who shot a sleeping twenty-one-year-old aspiring nurse in her own home, but they HAVE arrested Attica Scott, author of the law named after her. She was arrested while crossing the street past curfew and has been charged with 1st degree rioting. Video evidence shows no rioting by her.

[Antiboyscout]

If you want to make no knock warrants illegal that's fine, but why are you wasting all your time and energy on trying to have cops arrested for a crime that doesn't exist yet.

[Draco Dracul]

If you want to make no knock warrants illegal that's fine, but why are you wasting all your time and energy on trying to have cops arrested for a crime that doesn't exist yet.

Murder and manslaughter are both crimes that exist.

[Makeshift Python]

You misunderstood Antiboyscout. He doesn't think any crime was committed because black lives don't matter to him.

[Antiboyscout]

If you want to make no knock warrants illegal that's fine, but why are you wasting all your time and energy on trying to have cops arrested for a crime that doesn't exist yet.

Murder and manslaughter are both crimes that exist.

Murder requires intent

Manslaughter requires the creation of an unsafe situation
with a warrant, the cops showing up didn't create an unsafe situation. The suspect opening fire did.

that's why I put so much emphasis on the warrant

[Draco Dracul]

If you want to make no knock warrants illegal that's fine, but why are you wasting all your time and energy on trying to have cops arrested for a crime that doesn't exist yet.

Murder and manslaughter are both crimes that exist.

Murder requires intent

Manslaughter requires the creation of an unsafe situation
with a warrant, the cops showing up didn't create an unsafe situation. The suspect opening fire did.

that's why I put so much emphasis on the warrant

A) The suspect didn't do anything because the suspect was already in police custody and the man that opened fire was not suspected of anything.

B) Her boyfriend responded as any reasonable person would when three unknown individuals broke into his home at 3 AM.

[TGLS]

Right: Gun rights are important because how else will you stop home invaders in the middle of the night?
Left: Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! That's ridiculous! Most people wouldn't be able to hit anything and could hit innocent bystanders!
[turn world upside down]
Left: Gun rights are important because how else will you stop home invaders in the middle of the night?
Right: Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! That's ridiculous! Most people wouldn't be able to hit anything and could hit innocent bystanders!

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Right: Gun rights are important because how else will you stop home invaders in the middle of the night?
Left: Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! That's ridiculous! Most people wouldn't be able to hit anything and could hit innocent bystanders!
[turn world upside down]
Left: Gun rights are important because how else will you stop home invaders in the middle of the night?
Right: Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! That's ridiculous! Most people wouldn't be able to hit anything and could hit innocent bystanders!

I can't believe they did that.