The great 2020 election thread....

[Rocketboy1313]

I was more so referring to the MSM burying Mr. Biden's myriad scandals. I have no idea how they'd handle this if he won. Like it or not, the distrust in our institutions cannot be stopped and they have only intensified it. It's just going to accelerate more and more as time passes. I sincerely doubt that we can go back "to the way things were" in merely four years. It's just more of the same old, same old, just packaged more nicely. And if we could, it would require someone who is more inspiring and frankly younger than Mr. Biden. He is not going to be there to make it.

I feel like I have every right to say this since I was dragged kicking and voting into an electoral process I don't believe in. So let me complain about the septuagenarian I didn't want to vote for.

This is going to shock you to learn this, but Biden has been in office for decades and during that time has been under constant scrutiny. There isn't anything there.

Prior to him being Vice President he was considered one of the most trustworthy people in the Senate. Having (unlike most others) not used hi position to enrich himself to ungodly levels, he was worth less than a million dollars and took the train to work. There aren't any scandals. Even by the standards of pre-Trump era politics, he doesn't have anything meaty to grab on to. By the standards of post Trump, Biden is kind of bulletproof, that is why they keep going after his son, and Clinton. And even then, Hunter has his issues, but he is still a pretty good guy, and the idea that he is somehow on the take for foreign governments... You have to actually show that. You have to show that he or Joe did something wrong, and they haven't.

This is just another instance of them gesturing vaguely at something like the Clinton Foundation and saying, "Clearly they are using their charity to take brides" and they believe that... because Trump and his family steal from their charities, their schools, and take bribes via their properties.

This is part of why Progressives like me look poorly on Biden. Ironically.
When Biden did all the things we disagree with. He did them because he legitimately thought he was doing what was best for the country. That is not great. Biden will surround himself with professionals that know what they are talking about, even I do not agree with them on everything (They will probably work from the position of "capitalism? But of course!"), but at the very least they will be able to explain themselves.
Biden is a human being, he can admit wrong doing, he can express empathy (he can feel empathy), he has a soul.

I cannot say the same for the golden calf statue that walks as a man that is current in the Oval Office.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I still can't yiffing believe that our current president was praised for basically...not misbehaving during a debate. He was "calmer", more "presidential", because he didn't scream and interrupt. That's how long the bar is.

Joe Biden's platform made me feel better about voting for him, but his "There is no excuse for violence!" finger-wagging annoyed me. I mean, if there was NO excuse for violence, we wouldn't have a standing army and armed policemen.

[CmdrKing]

Or a country.

Anyway so Trump bussed people out to his Omaha rally last night then the busses left and people were stranded. I’ve seen claims he stiffed the drivers, but haven’t seen corroborating reports.

https://twitter.com/jeff_paul/status/1321331610344656897?s=21

[Captain Crimson]

I mean, I'd buy it. Granted, we need documentation, but it really fits the character profile.

[Makeshift Python]

I just want this fucking nightmare over.

I've never liked Joe Biden and I thought he'd make a rotten President but he actually understands the business of government. The constant refrain of "Trump is not a politician!" has just shown that 45 doesn't know how to fucking do the job and didn't bother to learn in 4 years. Pence has been running the government's day to day and I loathe him too.

I'm tired of hearing about the constant attempts to suppress votes, destroy the fucking post office [which we need], and ludicrous conspiracy theories. I hate the nepotism, the constant lying, the fears about defunded medicaid, the arguing with children, the attempts to buy Greenland, and other bizarre behavior.

I'm not even bringing the lack of a plan because of a desire to pretend a plague doesn't exist.

I am just...tired of 45.

Yeah, but, don't we want to own the libs???

[Captain Crimson]

I just want this fucking nightmare over.

I've never liked Joe Biden and I thought he'd make a rotten President but he actually understands the business of government. The constant refrain of "Trump is not a politician!" has just shown that 45 doesn't know how to fucking do the job and didn't bother to learn in 4 years. Pence has been running the government's day to day and I loathe him too.

I'm tired of hearing about the constant attempts to suppress votes, destroy the fucking post office [which we need], and ludicrous conspiracy theories. I hate the nepotism, the constant lying, the fears about defunded medicaid, the arguing with children, the attempts to buy Greenland, and other bizarre behavior.

I'm not even bringing the lack of a plan because of a desire to pretend a plague doesn't exist.

I am just...tired of 45.

Yeah, but, don't we want to own the libs???

Dunno who that is addressed to, so I will this on my anti-DNC viewpoints.

I never want to "own the libs." I think they've really strayed very far from their original path and ideologies, similar to the GOP, though nowhere near as destructive. That's evident by putting the most unpopular and weakest candidate in a generation forward as their flag-bearer. But you don't get that on the cable news past "enthusiasm gap." No, there's more to it than that. And that's the tragedy of the DNC. Many would prefer them over the GOP, but they can't assemble the winning coalitions they need due to their own self-sabotaging.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Once again, I must disrespectfully agree with Captain Crimson.

[Makeshift Python]

As far as I’m concerned the DNC is just republicans in blue, the only thing that makes them different is that they don’t hate women and minorities. That’s a very small or big difference depending on your perspective, but it’s one I’ll vote for.

Ultimately, I’m not backing down if Biden wins. I’m ready to hold him accountable.

[Captain Crimson]

The difference also being I think their system can work, if it is given time, that the big lobbyists, corporations, and GOP won't let them have. They are capitalism to a T that tries to make it fit well. But as with all cultural inertia, takes time. Not disputing the old-fashioned viewpoints of the GOP, though.

[Makeshift Python]

There's also way too many old fucks running the DNC like Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, etc. For some reason they think they can actually trust and work with the GOP, but seem to be oblivious to the fact that the Republicans have zero interest in compromise, do as much as they can to stab them in the back, and never go by their word. And all the DNC does is wag their finger like. I get it, they all came of age during the era of Reagan and Tip O'Neill, when polititians "got things done". They want to restore things to bipartisanship. I don't think that can happen. Not unless the GOP has a major shakeup.

I guess it's just a matter of time before they all die off. Even Biden from what I understand is not going to seek a second term, which is probably for the best considering his age and uh senility.