The great 2020 election thread....

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Jonathan101 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:39 am If / when Trump picks up the remaining states he is contesting, he will likely surpass Obama in 2008.

Biden and Trump are, purely in terms of votes cast, the two most popular US Presidential candidates ever.

Make of that what you will.
What I make of that is a divided nation. Lets be honest, you can't get two more different people than Trump and Obama and yet there is only four years separating them. The same people were casting their votes at the same time.
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Jonathan101 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:39 am Biden and Trump are, purely in terms of votes cast, the two most popular US Presidential candidates ever.

Make of that what you will.
Well yeah. The population keeps increasing. If you look at a list of winners ordered by their popular vote total, it's basically the list of presidents in chronological order.
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I'm sure Mr. 45 will be happy about that and totally jump back into the game in 2024. And the thing is, if the pandemic is gone by then, he really could win, yet again.

And his support among the democratic base and as 2020 showed, minorities cannot be understated. We live in curious times when both candidates are hugely unpopular but get huge votes. Says a lot about the failing institutions of the once proud union, huh?
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Seems unappreciable of democratic science.
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:12 am Seems unappreciable of democratic science.
You should know as well as me, as radical leftists here would tell you, the education system is in decline, and so voters are less informed than ever in the era of reality TV culture. I'll make a bold claim. I think Family Guy helped Mr. 45 win in 2016. Even if not directly, it was the rise in trends that made it possible. Realty TV mentality has become the basis of our cultural consumption that helped propel a billionaire outsider to the highest office in the land. Plus all I see is too many people from the last generation were totally pampered, at least in certain places of the world. It's made it very hard to get anything done when they've shot themselves in the foot in terms of the cause.

Fourteen billion dollars spent on 2020. Fourteen billion. Imagine what we could have done with all that money if both sides weren't obsessed with beating each other. Fourteen billion is what drove historic turnout, because it's historic spending that terrified enough voters.
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clearspira wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:06 am
Jonathan101 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:39 am If / when Trump picks up the remaining states he is contesting, he will likely surpass Obama in 2008.

Biden and Trump are, purely in terms of votes cast, the two most popular US Presidential candidates ever.

Make of that what you will.
What I make of that is a divided nation. Lets be honest, you can't get two more different people than Trump and Obama and yet there is only four years separating them. The same people were casting their votes at the same time.
You can easily get two people more different than Obama and Trump.
Just on the metrics of religion and gender Congresswoman Omar is a muslim woman, that is more different than a black christian man and a white christian man.
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:09 pm
clearspira wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:06 am
Jonathan101 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:39 am If / when Trump picks up the remaining states he is contesting, he will likely surpass Obama in 2008.

Biden and Trump are, purely in terms of votes cast, the two most popular US Presidential candidates ever.

Make of that what you will.
What I make of that is a divided nation. Lets be honest, you can't get two more different people than Trump and Obama and yet there is only four years separating them. The same people were casting their votes at the same time.
You can easily get two people more different than Obama and Trump.
Just on the metrics of religion and gender Congresswoman Omar is a muslim woman, that is more different than a black christian man and a white christian man.
Those voters came from the Rust Belt. And Mr. 45 has outdone his numbers from 2016. That should be deeply scary for the DNC. Since it shows their hold on traditional blue or battleground states is very flimsy. I also don't buy polling will return to normal once Mr. 45 is gone. It will, if anything, get far harder. To think otherwise is just elitist talk for "we're going back to business as usual." It could ensure another Trump effect takes place, that could be even worse than it was in 2016 and 2020. Mr. 45 took Florida and Ohio, and it's because most people in this country are not white supremacist or woke nuts. Not rioters and not shooters. And they failed to see it.
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Jonathan101 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:09 pm So, Biden is currently the most voted-for candidate in US history (71m+), ahead of Obama (69.4m)

I think Trump is currently 3rd (68m).

Biden and Trump will obviously get more by the time this is all over.

Just a bit of trivia.
And Trump has just surpassed Obama's record. Both he and Biden have gathered the highest turnout in US history.

Would be very anticlimatic if Biden loses despite having the highest record.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:11 am Would be very anticlimatic if Biden loses despite having the highest record.
More of a tragic farce.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:11 am
Jonathan101 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:09 pm So, Biden is currently the most voted-for candidate in US history (71m+), ahead of Obama (69.4m)

I think Trump is currently 3rd (68m).

Biden and Trump will obviously get more by the time this is all over.

Just a bit of trivia.
And Trump has just surpassed Obama's record. Both he and Biden have gathered the highest turnout in US history.

Would be very anticlimatic if Biden loses despite having the highest record.
I can't help but think that if some foreign country had an electoral system whereby the president got in by having less actual votes than his opponent we would denounce that country in a heartbeat.
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