MAGA rally in DC turns violent as 45's supporters attack

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Re: MAGA rally in DC turns violent as 45's supporters attack

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:10 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:22 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:28 amThese are the people who keep whining "so much for the tolerant left".
Wait, like the same physical people?
I mean I'm pretty sure every one of these violent protestors whines "so much for the tolerant left" on social media, assuming they haven't been banned from it yet.
Well you're right in that they lost now just like we lost in 2016, but we have a very easy high road to choose here, and those hypocrisy bits are kind of overshadowed by the monotony of the recurring violence under the same stressful condition etc... That is imo I didn't want to come off as too much of a dick with theses posts.

Use this moment to look at them how you wanted the other inciters to be looked like on our side of the aisle. It's kind of a stretch in simply comparing circumstance I know, so I guess if you have a problem there then I respectfully don't know what to say.
..What mirror universe?
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Captain Crimson wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:46 pm So you're lumping clearspira with these thugs? Or others that were here, like Admiral X? That's a tall accusation.
It's a well deserved one. Also, I'd lump you with those morons.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:59 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:46 pm So you're lumping clearspira with these thugs? Or others that were here, like Admiral X? That's a tall accusation.
It's a well deserved one. Also, I'd lump you with those morons.
Even though I'd literally called them violent earlier in the comments? :lol:

The key difference here is the left is the one wanting to aspire to tolerance ideals and tolerance culture when they seem to don't know the meaning of the word or don't care. Putting in the most token effort in thinking, well, for example, something like "I'd object if these violent right-wingers were tortured in prison" is just basic b**** s*** and doesn't cut it if the key is to rein down on judging others and being nasty.

It's ironic you say that since while I'd said before that I am quite uncomfortable with Fuzzy Necromancer's radical viewpoints, I'd never said that user was behind the looting and arson. It's not their character. And if I had and don't remember, then I'll actually apologize for that, since it's very much a misstatement.

History always surges between left and right cycles, the difference is how you achieve your goals in those eras. And violence is never right.
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The alt right, however much you guys hate them, at least want to make inroads with centrists. You radical leftists smugly talk down to us and judge us and act all superior. How do you really think that's going to grab you allies when you treat centrists like scum?
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Captain Crimson wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:32 am You radical leftists smugly talk down to us and judge us and act all superior.
That's fucking rich coming from you Mr. Both Sides.

And I don't claim to be tolerant like the left does. In fact, I would gladly sanction torture of the Proud Boys, KKK, and whatever hateful pieces of shit just so they can feel physical, mental, and emotional pain. If that makes me a monster, great, at least I'm their monster. Now, just how uncomfortable do you feel of Fuzzy Necromancer's "radical viewpoints"?
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Makeshift Python wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:01 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:32 am You radical leftists smugly talk down to us and judge us and act all superior.
That's fucking rich coming from you Mr. Both Sides.

And I don't claim to be tolerant like the left does. In fact, I would gladly sanction torture of the Proud Boys, KKK, and whatever hateful pieces of shit just so they can feel physical, mental, and emotional pain. If that makes me a monster, great, at least I'm their monster. Now, just how uncomfortable do you feel of Fuzzy Necromancer's "radical viewpoints"?
Its pretty apt that you have a Founder as your avatar tbh.
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Whatever. Go cry over how tea time brought the fall of the British Empire or something.
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Captain Crimson wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:32 am The alt right, however much you guys hate them, at least want to make inroads with centrists. You radical leftists smugly talk down to us and judge us and act all superior. How do you really think that's going to grab you allies when you treat centrists like scum?
I'll be perfectly willing to apolgize for any smugness.

Do you have any centrists in mind for me to apologize to?
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Makeshift Python wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:09 am Whatever. Go cry over how tea time brought the fall of the British Empire or something.
Good riddance to the empire. And good riddance to closed minded lefties with violent fantasies who like to paint themselves as heroes fighting the good fight. No Trump to blame for your problems now Odo.
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Well let's not say anything we can't take back.

Captain, these are astute observations of convention. But you aren't really charging these people to any constitution that recognizes a polar framework. You're dismissing the left as the left, but not actually assessing any of the social conditions that either side is principally arguing over.

You're framing it as people vs government, and you're ONLY talking about the left despite the right having an incredibly overt hand in this stuff.
..What mirror universe?
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