Louisville Police hide 700k reports of them molesting children

[Madner Kami]

As I've said, anti-police bigotry and yellow journalism is at an all-time high, so which do you think you should distrust more? Something is definitely off.

If the cops truly are guilty, though, then I doubt we'll get any kind of punishment, however... if we had a say, throw 'em in jail for life is my verdict. But I have no say.

Having a hunch and working off experience of failed reporting in my country. I admit I have not looked all too much into that case, but I think I know where that number may come from: It's actually a case of child-pornography, where each individual file (picture or movie) is erronoeusly reported as a singular case. Whether that is by media, by the leak or the departement themselves, I can not tell.

[Nealithi]

As I've said, anti-police bigotry and yellow journalism is at an all-time high, so which do you think you should distrust more? Something is definitely off.

If the cops truly are guilty, though, then I doubt we'll get any kind of punishment, however... if we had a say, throw 'em in jail for life is my verdict. But I have no say.

I think the journalists should be distrusted more because they get more money for fanning the flames on any issue. My first thought on this issue is Hanlon's Razor. Do not put to conspiracy that which can be attributed to incompetence. The sheer volume of information to be missing is staggering. The leadership of this police force is in question for not being leaders and a general mismanagement. Do they have to be diabolical mustache twirling villains to lose records and think they were given to another jurisdiction? Or do they have to be out of touch with how things work and screwed up due to a lack of a clue by those in charge?

Will somebody please tell this man that distrust of the police is not "bigotry"? -___-

So I had to look up bigotry to decide on this one.
big·ot·ry
/ˈbiɡətrē/
noun
obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Based on blanket statements that this or that police department has done something wrong that all police should be disbanded and taken up on charges and locked in prison. I think it fits the criteria for being called bigotry.
And some of the things I have heard people say? If you replace the word 'police' with a word for a certain religion or person of colour. Then it would be labeled anti-sematic or racist.
Thus pretty bad.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Yeah, color me skeptical to these kind of huge numbers. I don't doubt there's been tons of cases, mind you, and it's still evil no matter what, and their victims deserve better, but those same statistics pushed by leftists want to insist tens of millions of our women are silent trauma victims. That's just not in line with reality, because the definition is being shifted. Plus anti-police bigotry is at an all-time high, so it's all too easy to push a narrative designed to discredit them. I just can't say for sure.

I will say, however, in a perfect world, I would love for a bipartisan committee to investigate this and have full prosecution of all those involved, life in prison at bare minimum, but... we just can't have that, can we? Since the department heads won't want it, sadly.

Here's CC being a total assclown as usual with his usual "I don't doubt it, BUUUUUUT" bullshit.

The statistics I've seen for the new definition of assault, apparently, put at one in five women will have been assaulted or harassed (the figures aren't very clear depending on what source you go with) at least once in their life. Do you buy that? That we have tens of millions of silent trauma victims among our cities and hamlets? I know gender roles play a factor, our perceptions of them, as well as bureaucratic backlog, but flip it, to that level? Maybe I just have too much hope in people to think tens of millions could be monsters.

I don't buy it. This kinda depravity is so beyond the pale, and yet sadly so persistently common (I don't dispute that part), it generates too much hot-blooded emotion to ever be impartial, and thus like everything else in our society at this late stage, has probably been politicized for those with an agenda they might not even realize. Not that this doesn't warrant a quick and immediate response. But you're never going to have absolute justice. It's a concept that would be nice, but it ain't happening.

What else would you suggest past stating flippin' common sense? Especially since the radical left are those abhor and despise police. Reform is one thing, I'm on record saying we need that before. Abolishing the police is not. But I've never pretended there isn't some shady s*** going on behind the scenes. The same with government, big business, and the entertainment industry. I personally want more transparency from our institutions. But we won't get that, will we? You can bet we won't. But I'd support it if we did.

Alright, so you're fixating on one incidental and tying it to wide-spread propaganda. That's not a matter of the left and progressive policy, that's just a matter of you talking to random people and then trying to come up with a political opinion based on that, then blaming an anecdotal inconsistency as the main problem in an otherwise highly developed social field of thought. That's not exactly rational consideration.

tl;dr

Makeshift Python calls someone an assclown.

Proceeds to claim that three short paragraphs is too long.

Uh-huh.

Ok well what's your take on that beef cake of text then?

He's saying that nowadays we have stretched the definition of sexual assault and harassment to such an extent that pretty much every man on Earth is now capable of committing a sex crime and thus the figures have been artificially inflated. And to an extent I agree, I think we are swiftly approaching the day whereby even chatting a woman up in a bar will become harassment. Which will be funny as come that day the Earth's population will fall by 3 billion as it'll be illegal for a man to ask a woman out but no woman I have ever met will take the role of ''asker'' unless he is a very prized pick indeed.

I'm fairly certain that he wasn't saying that the definition has been stretched thin, just that he wasn't sure what that one particular study was focusing on. Though I'm not discrediting this insight or anything, just fyi.

However i also agree with Fuzzy. There is a glut of things that happen that you could never, ever prove because its your word against theirs with no witnesses. And I know this because it has happened to me. I once had a drunken woman grab me rather painfully by the dick in a bar to ''see if she made me hard''. Big laughs were had by everyone but me. Did I say shit? No. Because no one takes female-on-male sexual assault victims seriously and I had no proof. Men have not yet had their MeToo even though - ironically - Kevin Spacey doing to men what Weinstein was doing to women was actually a part of it and yet the world just continued acting as though it was a woman-only event and left it at that.

Well as I see it, the sensitivity that's put on the situation of male on female accosting is influenced by a common power dynamic. It's not a matter of fitting the bill for every single man regardless of size, it's just a matter of addressing a situation that tends to happen. Grabbing genitals is categorically a crime, but people are more often than not responding emotionally to a power dynamic, whether that be physical, hierarchical, or social.

Now the law is crafted regardless of sex/gender as you probably know, and which is notably aside from your point. You're perfectly fine to report that person and make a stink of it for any of the same reasons. There's people that support you in a blink of an eye, like the immediate response to your post. Not your typically minded people or the wild social forces your referring to, but there is social and institutional support for you as well.

That being said, the sensitivity of the law is also enforced dramatically as a recognition of those threatening power dynamics mentioned earlier. And another aside, it's not as if there's no social pressure for women to not speak up about this stuff. And so, humiliation is a big factor yes, but are you under the impression that there is such a major fuss about sexual harassment for what is mainly issues of humiliation? Is that where you are resentful that your situation shall not get consistent attention?

[Makeshift Python]

Will somebody please tell this man that distrust of the police is not "bigotry"? -___-

What man?

[Captain Crimson]

Alright, so you're fixating on one incidental and tying it to wide-spread propaganda. That's not a matter of the left and progressive policy, that's just a matter of you talking to random people and then trying to come up with a political opinion based on that, then blaming an anecdotal inconsistency as the main problem in an otherwise highly developed social field of thought. That's not exactly rational consideration.

That's rather not the case, more that I have no objections to the right or left, conservatives or liberals, left or right, just in my experience, the left seems to be more self-sabotaging with their grassroots movements, which if their true goal is the prevention of right-wing goals from taking hold, they really fail at, hard. It's an observation. But the reason I bring up that statistic is that, sadly, it dovetails into something like the MeToo movement.

Even Ms. Burke has distanced herself from it. If you have statistics that state that tens of millions of women are victims, you're going to find it easier to have an audience, and in an online platform that is entirely reliant on the flimsy "he-said/she-said" nature of this, it's all too easy for things to get totally out of control, without even bringing up the real possibility that people could be ruined over potentially faulty memories. And that's not a knock on survivors finding healing and even sharing their pain, nor is it dismissing all claims out of hand. It is that when there are always accusations about any sort of a crime or a misdeed, it inevitably boils down to "he said, she said" this. And humans have lied since the caveman days.

But then MeToo really feels like it was just a convenient tool for the DNC to wage war on Mr. 45 and the GOP. Once he has left, we return to the status quo since from all accounts, Ms. Harris is going to need to go around defending Mr. Biden akin to how I've heard Ms. Clinton had to stick by her husband in the '90s despite Mr. Clinton's own extremely questionable misconduct. I've read MoveOn was formed from the dismissals back then. "Move on." Even Ms. Milano has gone to defending Mr. Biden, and we all know why, they prioritized beating Mr. 45 above all other goals, including logic, compassion, and their souls. MeToo is never going to be credible again, nor are these blatant political statistics. I bet you the one who published the "one in five" statistic is a left-winger.

And we are just not educated on neuroscience enough to pin down enough psychological and biological factors to ascertain total truth in a court proceeding.

Don't get me wrong, the GOP would be no better in their zeal to bypass the law to limit reproductive rights, birth control, and some of the things they've said over the years. I mean, Mr. Akin, 'nuff said. But two wrongs don't make a right, and this is contributing to the overall larger cultural decay in the US ATM. Two sides with their own hate-fueled agendas, blind to their own hypocrisies, and willing to put them aside for the more important mission of destroying the other side.

Don't buy any of the BS they try to spoon-feed you.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

tl/dr

I'm not walking into immediately escalated responses like this.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Will somebody please tell this man that distrust of the police is not "bigotry"? -___-

What man?

Distrust in public institution is a little more firm standing than distrust in an individual.

That being said, Fuzzy has been strongly trying to make a case for distrust of every cop on an individual basis for matters of association.

[Captain Crimson]

Will somebody please tell this man that distrust of the police is not "bigotry"? -___-

What man?

Distrust in public institution is a little more firm standing than distrust in an individual.

That being said, Fuzzy has been strongly trying to make a case for distrust of every cop on an individual basis for matters of association.

Guilt by association fallacy. Like we haven't had that a million times in our short recorded history already.

[Makeshift Python]

When cops refuse to take accountability seriously because they don't want their reputations tainted, no fucking shit people start to distrust them.

I WANT to trust police departments, and yet they keep giving me new reasons every single day why they haven't earned it. If they stop trying to cover up shit and drop this whole "blue brotherhood" terrorist mentality it would be a step in the right direction.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Will somebody please tell this man that distrust of the police is not "bigotry"? -___-

What man?

Distrust in public institution is a little more firm standing than distrust in an individual.

That being said, Fuzzy has been strongly trying to make a case for distrust of every cop on an individual basis for matters of association.

Guilt by association fallacy. Like we haven't had that a million times in our short recorded history already.

I fuckin hate generalizations.