Edvarius wrote:Of course that would take away from the botched immortality plot. I swear, you'd think nobody had heard of small scale trials or strict quarantine.
"Did you complete the trials? You know how committed we are to medical ethics."
"Of course, I tested it on fifteen street orphans who volunteered in exchange for half a candy bar, and they're all fine."
"Good, I see no way karma could punish us for doing that!"
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I vaguely recall seeing this episode a long time ago, but don't remember it being that bad. Then again, I was pretty young myself at the time.
And why is the "planet of children" such a comparatively common trope in science fiction?
Also, after watching the review, I really, really want to know if Chuck has read The Dresden Files. Because that whole "Bigfoot hires a detective" analogy? That was pretty much exactly the premise of one of the Dresden Files short stories.
After watching the review, and re-watching the episode, my opinion of the episode is "a classic episode that has aged extremely poorly" as many of the complaints are things that were simply more overlooked or accepted back in the 60's. Some "that's how you do a TV show" tropes from that era are now "that's so 1960's" stuff.
In short, I'd recommend this to a new person to trek so they get an idea of the "bad" aspects of TOS
ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote:It's not a strong episode, especially when compared to the rest of season one (Is there a big following of this episode? I don't think Chuck's opinion is outside the norm)
That was my reaction, too. When he said he was going against fandom, I was thinking, huh? Do people actually like this? One of the weakest episodes not in the third season, IMO.
The Romulan Republic wrote:
And why is the "planet of children" such a comparatively common trope in science fiction?
It is an effective metaphor for our place in the universe. Small, ignorant, playing with forces we do not understand, and bound to grow into something more.
All that is missing is that monolith those patriarchal condescending jerk off aliens keep floating around.
Hey assholes, humanity is fine. Stop firing signals at us to force evolution and growth. You exist outside of time so waiting isn't an issue and would be prudent.
Bunch of dicks.
Also, you may not know what I am talking about. I am referencing "2001: A Space Odyssey".
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Humanity isn't fine. We're rapidly altering our own environment to the extent that it will soon be unsuitable for us, at which point we'll die off. If the damn monolith could find some way to get us to stop doing that, I'd be for it.
Durandal_1707 wrote:Humanity isn't fine. We're rapidly altering our own environment to the extent that it will soon be unsuitable for us, at which point we'll die off. If the damn monolith could find some way to get us to stop doing that, I'd be for it.
It would not be the first round of doomsday predictions that humanity survives.
The Romulan Republic wrote:
And why is the "planet of children" such a comparatively common trope in science fiction?
It is an effective metaphor for our place in the universe. Small, ignorant, playing with forces we do not understand, and bound to grow into something more.
All that is missing is that monolith those patriarchal condescending jerk off aliens keep floating around.
Hey assholes, humanity is fine. Stop firing signals at us to force evolution and growth. You exist outside of time so waiting isn't an issue and would be prudent.
Bunch of dicks.
Also, you may not know what I am talking about. I am referencing "2001: A Space Odyssey".
That makes sense.
And yes, I got the reference. I'd think most people who post here would recognize 2001, though maybe its more obscure than I realized.
Durandal_1707 wrote:Humanity isn't fine. We're rapidly altering our own environment to the extent that it will soon be unsuitable for us, at which point we'll die off. If the damn monolith could find some way to get us to stop doing that, I'd be for it.
That was kind of the plot to "Interstellar".
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