B:TAS Baby-Doll

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Re: B:TAS Baby-Doll

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MightyDavidson wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:51 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:05 pm
MightyDavidson wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:58 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:41 pm Ventriloquist is DID.

edit: that might be Scarface.
Doesn't work there either. Scarface is small sure but he's not a little kid and certainly doesn't dress or act like one.
Scarface is so immature, what you talking about?

The similarity is obviously there. A mature being communicates through the guise of a physically subordinate being.

The depressive aspects of each character are similar for them being villains too. Poor chaps.
No, no he is not. There's not a single time that Scarface has been portrayed as immature. Scarface is dangerously intelligent, a criminal mastermind that has nearly killed Batman more then once and is shown to be an effective leader of his squad. In his last appearance he was shown to be clever enough to hide himself so that the staff at Arkham and even the Ventriloquist himself thought he'd been cured. He's a stereotypical gangster, not a little girl speaking in baby talk.

He and Baby Doll are NOTHING alike.
Frankly what you're describing sounds more like a Mary Sue.

Breaking the law is immature. Argument is invalid.

You typically need to include Marvel characters to get such similarity.

Oh yeah they both use guns too.
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:31 am Two adults deceptively and passively using children's entertainment to vent their somewhat commonly understandable mental illnesses and commit horrible crimes?
Okay, that is a better way to put it.

Then again, they are all cartoonish super villains.

They are all kind of childish.

One is a party clown.
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:28 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:31 am Two adults deceptively and passively using children's entertainment to vent their somewhat commonly understandable mental illnesses and commit horrible crimes?
Okay, that is a better way to put it.

Then again, they are all cartoonish super villains.

They are all kind of childish.

One is a party clown.
You mean Scarface, a clown? I feel like your post might have taken a J-turn clocking in at 12 g's. I don't know anything that can do that.

I just feel the consistency I pointed out is distinct from a lot of the villains. Then again there's numerous renditions of Toyman, but he's more of a shared villain.
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MightyDavidson wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:21 pm
Coyote's Own wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:10 pm Baby Doll, the Ventriloquist wants his schtick back.
The Ventriloquist doesn't act like a small child, nor does he look like one.
I mean the doll with gun attached.
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Coyote's Own wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:46 pm
MightyDavidson wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:21 pm
Coyote's Own wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:10 pm Baby Doll, the Ventriloquist wants his schtick back.
The Ventriloquist doesn't act like a small child, nor does he look like one.
I mean the doll with gun attached.
Well if the doll was a ventriloquist dummy that she made talk then I could see it. That's just a doll with a gun hidden in it.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:02 pm
MightyDavidson wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:51 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:05 pm
MightyDavidson wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:58 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:41 pm Ventriloquist is DID.

edit: that might be Scarface.
Doesn't work there either. Scarface is small sure but he's not a little kid and certainly doesn't dress or act like one.
Scarface is so immature, what you talking about?

The similarity is obviously there. A mature being communicates through the guise of a physically subordinate being.

The depressive aspects of each character are similar for them being villains too. Poor chaps.
No, no he is not. There's not a single time that Scarface has been portrayed as immature. Scarface is dangerously intelligent, a criminal mastermind that has nearly killed Batman more then once and is shown to be an effective leader of his squad. In his last appearance he was shown to be clever enough to hide himself so that the staff at Arkham and even the Ventriloquist himself thought he'd been cured. He's a stereotypical gangster, not a little girl speaking in baby talk.

He and Baby Doll are NOTHING alike.
Frankly what you're describing sounds more like a Mary Sue.

Breaking the law is immature. Argument is invalid.

You typically need to include Marvel characters to get such similarity.

Oh yeah they both use guns too.
Come back when you actually have a decent argument. As it is you're just stomping your feet and yelling "I'M RIGHT! I'M RIGHT! I'M RIGHT!" with no actual evidence to back it up. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.
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MightyDavidson wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:06 pm
Come back when you actually have a decent argument. As it is you're just stomping your feet and yelling "I'M RIGHT! I'M RIGHT! I'M RIGHT!" with no actual evidence to back it up. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.
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Toys with guns concealed are pretty old hat in the DC universe. The Joker, Toyman, and Toymaker (yes, those are separate supervillains) all have a weaponized toy schtick. Baby-doll isn't even unbelievable, you could hide a derringer inside the doll's head.
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I wasn't talking about Toymaker (btw).

Joker isn't acting like a real clown (as in occupational) or using a guise or anything. But yeah it's still fine, not every villain uses guns. It's not a great clue but it's a clue.
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Was it ever explained how Baby Doll could hire henchmen? I guess she's rich from the TV show she starred in?

Strange that Baby Doll's henchwoman was apparently a one-off character ("Mariam" according to a BAS wiki). She does martial arts in heels and gives Batman a run for his money.

Mary Dahl seems like a poster child for euthanasia or suicide. She's got an extremely rare incurable, untreatable medical condition that clearly makes her life a living hell.
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