The great 2020 election thread....

[Makeshift Python]

I'm a complex guy, sweetheart.

[CharlesPhipps]

Defund police coupled alongside anti-police bigotry is horrible language that seems to illustrate the fragmented and disorganized nature of the left. Those defending it insist it's about reform, yet the hard-liners really just want to abolish law enforcement altogether, I've seen them saying this.

You're correct that some people really don't think the police do anything but harass brown people. We saw the "No Police Zone" in Seattle result in a bunch of murders and people were like, "Why would people do this?" Not quite understanding that yes, some people are terrible.

That doesn't mean that arming the police with rocket launchers and APCs benefits anyone versus, say, getting more social workers to deal with the mentally ill and drug users that the police are neither trained nor the best opportunity to deal with.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

If "the left" is disorganized and fragmented, it's because the Right in the USA is basically a death cult run by a one-dimensional evil clown, and "the left" is a very loose alliance of pretty much everyone who isn't either in the death cult or apathetic to its path of destruction.

[Captain Crimson]

Defund police coupled alongside anti-police bigotry is horrible language that seems to illustrate the fragmented and disorganized nature of the left. Those defending it insist it's about reform, yet the hard-liners really just want to abolish law enforcement altogether, I've seen them saying this.

You're correct that some people really don't think the police do anything but harass brown people. We saw the "No Police Zone" in Seattle result in a bunch of murders and people were like, "Why would people do this?" Not quite understanding that yes, some people are terrible.

That doesn't mean that arming the police with rocket launchers and APCs benefits anyone versus, say, getting more social workers to deal with the mentally ill and drug users that the police are neither trained nor the best opportunity to deal with.

Will totally agree on no rocket launchers for police. Like, really? SMH

Though I abhor civilians seizing a police precinct in the vain, narcissistic, arrogant belief they could do a job better without training, experience, or understanding of the tools for the job.

Make no mistake, if COVID wasn't a thing, so that the MSM could shield them, I think this year would have been a red wave, as Mr. 45 said. Any leftist gains were in spite of, not because of themselves.

[CharlesPhipps]

Defund police coupled alongside anti-police bigotry is horrible language that seems to illustrate the fragmented and disorganized nature of the left. Those defending it insist it's about reform, yet the hard-liners really just want to abolish law enforcement altogether, I've seen them saying this.

You're correct that some people really don't think the police do anything but harass brown people. We saw the "No Police Zone" in Seattle result in a bunch of murders and people were like, "Why would people do this?" Not quite understanding that yes, some people are terrible.

That doesn't mean that arming the police with rocket launchers and APCs benefits anyone versus, say, getting more social workers to deal with the mentally ill and drug users that the police are neither trained nor the best opportunity to deal with.

Will totally agree on no rocket launchers for police. Like, really? SMH

Though I abhor civilians seizing a police precinct in the vain, narcissistic, arrogant belief they could do a job better without training, experience, or understanding of the tools for the job.

Make no mistake, if COVID wasn't a thing, so that the MSM could shield them, I think this year would have been a red wave, as Mr. 45 said. Any leftist gains were in spite of, not because of themselves.

I thought it would be because of covid but I don't believe covid affected anyone. No one seems to have shifted votes on the GOP side, covid or not. It was pretty much the same as 2016 with a lot more black, Native American, and youth votes.

[Captain Crimson]

Defund police coupled alongside anti-police bigotry is horrible language that seems to illustrate the fragmented and disorganized nature of the left. Those defending it insist it's about reform, yet the hard-liners really just want to abolish law enforcement altogether, I've seen them saying this.

You're correct that some people really don't think the police do anything but harass brown people. We saw the "No Police Zone" in Seattle result in a bunch of murders and people were like, "Why would people do this?" Not quite understanding that yes, some people are terrible.

That doesn't mean that arming the police with rocket launchers and APCs benefits anyone versus, say, getting more social workers to deal with the mentally ill and drug users that the police are neither trained nor the best opportunity to deal with.

Will totally agree on no rocket launchers for police. Like, really? SMH

Though I abhor civilians seizing a police precinct in the vain, narcissistic, arrogant belief they could do a job better without training, experience, or understanding of the tools for the job.

Make no mistake, if COVID wasn't a thing, so that the MSM could shield them, I think this year would have been a red wave, as Mr. 45 said. Any leftist gains were in spite of, not because of themselves.

I thought it would be because of covid but I don't believe covid affected anyone. No one seems to have shifted votes on the GOP side, covid or not. It was pretty much the same as 2016 with a lot more black, Native American, and youth votes.

And a lot of those POC went over to the GOP. Not enough to put a dent into the DNC's numbers, but enough that should seriously scare them, and it's because I think most people are fed up with the woke insanity these days, the riots the DNC never disavowed past token lip service, and the corporate democrats are more unpopular than ever. I've seen many Latinos, black people who despise BLM. It's not the way to the future anymore when it's really just OCBLM - "Only Certain Black Lives Matter." That's what some POC I've known have said.

My point stands, this election wasn't enthusiasm for the racist, sexist septuagenarian white man who failed to win twice, who offends people with his words, but more extreme dislike for Mr. 45. And it's just embarrassing that said septuagenarian white man gets the most votes in American history. There was no fraud, or at least none large enough to sway the results, but it's enabling the very white privilege the DNC and those left of center claim to hate.

Talk about sheer, rank, offensive hypocrisy. Especially the BS surrounding the burying of the Reade allegations and the assassination of MeToo. Democrats sold their souls to win this year. They enter 2021 with no mandate and no moral high ground, being only an inch better than the GOP, at best. At most, they're only determined by a distance measured in subatomic particles.

[CharlesPhipps]

You know a lot of people looked heavily into Reade's story and the fact it kept changing then only then decided it wasn't credible?

Are we really just going with, "Oh, Democrats think Donald Trump is a rapist because of all the charges against him but never our guy?"

Just checking.

[Captain Crimson]

You know a lot of people looked heavily into Reade's story and the fact it kept changing then only then decided it wasn't credible?

Are we really just going with, "Oh, Democrats think Donald Trump is a rapist because of all the charges against him but never our guy?"

Just checking.

Yeah, so the DNC just rationalizes it as false and doesn't launch an investigation into it, likely out of paranoid fear that will help the GOP win, and RN it's two bitter, tribal enemies trying to see who can kill us all first.

I don't care if it's false or true. I'm saying we DESERVE an investigation given the insane lengths the DNC goes to in playing the gender card and propping up MeToo, only to discard it when it was inconvenient.

It's also quite hilarious you say that, since those same criticisms have been used to wave off other allegations because... why do we expect trauma victims, especially when prey to the fallibility of human memory, to act rationally? So it's a "Do what I say, not as I do" thing.

What a laugh.

[CharlesPhipps]

Yeah, so the DNC just rationalizes it as false and doesn't launch an investigation into it, likely out of paranoid fear that will help the GOP win, and RN it's two bitter, tribal enemies trying to see who can kill us all first.

A bunch of newspapers investigated it. Biden asked for it to be investigated.

Just saying.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Is this really an ongoing issue? It's something I've seen no one talk about and can't find any indication of, and on the other hand Captain makes it out to be a scandal of sorts.

I know that him being Trump's opponent would have influence on his current affairs spotlight, but for nobody to be talking about it since its officiated proceedings ceased?